The 7th Annual BYC Easter Hatch-A-Long!

[JoyfulPromise]

@chattery41
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I agree. Last year I ordered some Red English Orpingtons off Ebay from a breeder in Kentucky (I am in Michigan). The eggs arrived in perfect shape, air cells looked decent, packed well, and they sent a couple extra. But when I incubated them, only two or three showed any signs of development and those never hatched! I told the seller and they offered to send me another set of eggs for just the shipping cost. I agreed, but the new set of eggs didn't develop either!

Seller said they were getting high hatch rates themselves and testing it frequently, and other buyers had a good hatch. I concluded it must have just been a bad shipping route and the eggs were shook up too much to hatch or something else like that.

I understand that shipped eggs of all things have no guarantee!

But in your case you said you picked up the eggs? There doesn't seem to be a good reason for that drastic a change in fertility, and with the seller wanting you to pay that much for more eggs - Doesn't sound fair to me!

 

[Ravynscroft]

Ok folks, i have an issue here and would like yalls opinion. I bought some Eng Orp eggs that were posted on another site. 16+/$125, must be picked up. Fertility running about 90% but can't guarantee fertility or hatch rate. Some of the eggs were already 5-6 days old so when i got them i left them sit overnight then stuck them in my bator. Now here it is day 14 and i have 5 of the 18 that are not absolutely clear. Well that's nowhere near 90% so i contact seller and i get " well i'm sorry ur having problems but i stated i don't guarantee fertility". Then i get " these orpingtons are so hard to breed because they are so fluffy". Really?! So i sent another message, I understand that but surely you can make an exception due to the drastic reduction of fertility compared to what you were projecting"? So far no answer. I'm not looking for free anything but i think fair is fair, at least a 50% viability i could live with but 30+%. Ok so what would you do ?

Oh wait ! I got another message ! "your right, that is a big drop. Tell you what i'll do i have 12 jubilee eggs (mine were ALL BBS) that i can let you have for $85 instead of the $125 i've been asking". I've been watching the posts where she's got these listed and she can't get them sold. So she wants to sell them to me ? OMG

Avoid... fertility is the one thing that should be guaranteed, at least to 90%... when you are buying 'hatching eggs', infertile eggs will never hatch no matter what kind of mojo you could use on them... I understand not guaranteeing hatch rate, etc, but not being shipped and that low is just bad business...

If they are aware of a fertility issue, they should be honest up front and offer for much reduced price...

Btw, all I've heard about Jubilees is they have a much higher hit or miss fertility rate than any other Orpington... personally, I won't even try them... but this is just my opinion...

 

[TJordan]

[COLOR=008080]I agree.  Last year I ordered some Red English Orpingtons  off Ebay from a breeder in Kentucky (I am in Michigan).  The eggs arrived in perfect shape, air cells looked decent, packed well, and they sent a couple extra.  But when I incubated them, only two or three showed any signs of development and those never hatched!  I told the seller and they offered to send me another set of eggs for just the shipping cost.  I agreed, but the new set of eggs didn't develop either! [/COLOR] [COLOR=008080]Seller said they were getting high hatch rates themselves and testing it frequently, and other buyers had a good hatch.  I concluded it must have just been a bad shipping route and the eggs were shook up too much to hatch or something else like that.[/COLOR] [COLOR=008080] I understand that shipped eggs of all things have no guarantee!  [/COLOR]

[COLOR=008080]But in your case you said you picked up the eggs?  There doesn't seem to be a good reason for that drastic a change in fertility, and with the seller wanting you to pay that much for more eggs - Doesn't sound fair to me! [/COLOR]:/   

X2 on that. Sounds fishy to me. If you were near me I would give you some of my eggs. I went from having to bow out of the hatch to being overwhelmed with eggs. Good fertile eggs should hatch. Not so drastic a change in hatch rate.

 

[Ravynscroft]

[COLOR=008080]I agree.  Last year I ordered some Red English Orpingtons  off Ebay from a breeder in Kentucky (I am in Michigan).  The eggs arrived in perfect shape, air cells looked decent, packed well, and they sent a couple extra.  But when I incubated them, only two or three showed any signs of development and those never hatched!  I told the seller and they offered to send me another set of eggs for just the shipping cost.  I agreed, but the new set of eggs didn't develop either! [/COLOR] [COLOR=008080]Seller said they were getting high hatch rates themselves and testing it frequently, and other buyers had a good hatch.  I concluded it must have just been a bad shipping route and the eggs were shook up too much to hatch or something else like that.[/COLOR] [COLOR=008080] I understand that shipped eggs of all things have no guarantee!  [/COLOR]

[COLOR=008080]But in your case you said you picked up the eggs?  There doesn't seem to be a good reason for that drastic a change in fertility, and with the seller wanting you to pay that much for more eggs - Doesn't sound fair to me! [/COLOR]:/   

That sounds like a fair offer from that seller... coulda been shipping or it could have just been an off time in the fertility... but 1 replacement for just shipping I feel is fair and an offer in good faith by the seller...

 

[chattery41]

Avoid... fertility is the one thing that should be guaranteed, at least to 90%... when you are buying 'hatching eggs', infertile eggs will never hatch no matter what kind of mojo you could use on them... I understand not guaranteeing hatch rate, etc, but not being shipped and that low is just bad business...

If they are aware of a fertility issue, they should be honest up front and offer for much reduced price...

Btw, all I've heard about Jubilees is they have a much higher hit or miss fertility rate than any other Orpington... personally, I won't even try them... but this is just my opinion...

The eggs i bought were Bbs. Now she's offeringe 12+ BBS for $65. Went to their "homepage" to check reviews and lo and behold there are none ! There were reviews on there when i first started watching this breeder. That makes me wonder if she's screwing other people around.

 

[generaldsherman]

The eggs i bought were Bbs. Now she's offeringe 12+ BBS for $65. Went to their "homepage" to check reviews and lo and behold there are none ! There were reviews on there when i first started watching this breeder. That makes me wonder if she's screwing other people around.

Sounds fishy, alright.

 

[jaide]

Went to the feed store today guess what I can hear? We picked up 5 pullets but have no ideas what they are. Anyone want to guess?

 

[jaide]

 

[TJordan]

Cuties?!

sorry don't know. Just cuties.

 

[Sahwithchicks]

Fertility should be checked by the seller, but hatch ability and viability are different than fertility. With shipped eggs, the hatch rate is absolutely not guaranteed to a buyer, and although most sellers will generously offer replacements at little cost, it isn't something I ever expect of a seller.
However, eggs that are picked up directly without going through the stress of shipping? The eggs should be both fertile and viable. Unfortunately if she has set conditions that you adhered to once you made the purchase (bad business aside) then those are the conditions of the sale.

Personally- if a local pick up said they had very few eggs hatch, i would offer replacements certainly... I would question them about their incubation practices as well, and might decide to offer a set number chicks instead if I feel their incubation is going to cause an additional low hatch.