The African and Chinese goose thread!!

[Chaneys Ranch]

Quote: Try going to the Buy sell trade section on BYC for starters, and your state thread if there is one. My brown chinese are from a hatchery, Meyer. They are based in OH but the goslings come from California. Metzer Farms is a good breeder and specializes in waterfowl. Look around ads for poultry exhibits at fair time, you should be able to locate a breeder through 4H program. Good luck on your search, I finally bought hatchery birds I wasn't able to locate a breeder either. My whites were good breeder stock, but both are getting older so the hen lays less often.

 

[Patriciaallison]

Thanks for the ideas. I am actively looking and will check those places.
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[NathanZee]

@servpolice has lovely Africans and can better explain. Hatchery are less likely to meet SOP (Standard Of Perfection) for the breed, and are not as closely watched for meeting standards. Many are actually a chinese and african cross. Super African are closer to the real thing. Its all in what you want honestly and availability of a good breeder.

To be honest, I like the look of Chinese/African mixes better than both Chinese and Super African, but it would probably be best if they were made a different breed so there wasn't confusion with real Africans.

@servpolice , if a gosling has two small yellow dashes on the back, will they affect its adult plumage?

 

[Sarkchick]

I am a small person right at 5 feet tall, maybe 100 pounds. That said, I also have 3 ganders. A very big Embden, and 2 chinese. All 3 boys have learned its not smart to cross me. Its best to use the natural language they understand, pinning the opposing "goose". It is not cruel, its teaching them in their own language whats not ok.

You have to remind yourself you are bigger than they are. When they charge, I grab the neck firmly with one hand just below the head, pulling him towards me, my other arm goes around those wings. Get those wings, they hurt! Down we go! I pin the gander down to the ground. I try to hold with my legs in case anyone else tries to get in on the fight. Once he stops struggling I release him, I do not let go of that neck until then. Hold out your arms, scolding him loudly and make him walk away. thats the "victory dance" once you have won the "gander fight" and exactly how they do it. Usually once is enough, sometimes you need a repeat, like my Big Boy Embden. He is a massive bird, very territorial and fiercely protective of his goose hens. I have been pinched a couple times pinning him, but he has to know its not ok to attack me. Once you establish your pecking order in the flock it should stop. Its really no different that teaching a puppy to not bite or scratch you.

Other people use large plastic garden rakes to scare them, but its just putting a band aid on the problem. Successfully keeping geese means being able to control gander behavior. It is intimidating to see that charge towards you! Hopefully other members can offer ideas as well.

Awesome idea. Thanks for the information
Linda

 

[MrsDouglas]

These are our new buddies. Last week they found themselves in an unfortunate situation. I won't go into details but it was a situation of most certain death. They are so beautiful I thought they deserved the chance to live. I was not looking to have geese but now that they are here I have been reading up on them. This site is great and I think I have a better clue on what kind they are now. I hope I am in the general ball park here with the african/chinese possible mix? I have no clue of their sex, or if they have been clipped/pinioned, although they have not tried to fly so I suspect they might be. These are the pictures of their arrival, to what I know is a much better place than they have ever known. My intentions for them is to let them be , to live their life. Although I do not have money to spend on vet visits I am concerned for their well being and if there are any links you think I should read that would be appreciated.











Because of the lighting in some of the pictures their necks show up tanish, but they are mostly white except for the stripe along the back and then it starts the tan coloring where the neck meets the rest of the body.
They sure seemed happy , almost as if they didn't know if they were in a dream or not at first.

 

[Chaneys Ranch]

These are our new buddies. Last week they found themselves in an unfortunate situation. I won't go into details but it was a situation of most certain death. They are so beautiful I thought they deserved the chance to live. I was not looking to have geese but now that they are here I have been reading up on them. This site is great and I think I have a better clue on what kind they are now. I hope I am in the general ball park here with the african/chinese possible mix? I have no clue of their sex, or if they have been clipped/pinioned, although they have not tried to fly so I suspect they might be. These are the pictures of their arrival, to what I know is a much better place than they have ever known. My intentions for them is to let them be , to live their life. Although I do not have money to spend on vet visits I am concerned for their well being and if there are any links you think I should read that would be appreciated.











Because of the lighting in some of the pictures their necks show up tanish, but they are mostly white except for the stripe along the back and then it starts the tan coloring where the neck meets the rest of the body.
They sure seemed happy , almost as if they didn't know if they were in a dream or not at first.

Pretty sure you have a pair, Gander and Goose. Are the voices different? If so the gander will have a higher pitch. They are either Brown Chinese or Hatchery african, same as I have. Lovely geese, and WTG caring enough to give them a safe new home. Here is my "hatchery african"

 

[NathanZee]

These are our new buddies. Last week they found themselves in an unfortunate situation. I won't go into details but it was a situation of most certain death. They are so beautiful I thought they deserved the chance to live. I was not looking to have geese but now that they are here I have been reading up on them. This site is great and I think I have a better clue on what kind they are now. I hope I am in the general ball park here with the african/chinese possible mix? I have no clue of their sex, or if they have been clipped/pinioned, although they have not tried to fly so I suspect they might be. These are the pictures of their arrival, to what I know is a much better place than they have ever known. My intentions for them is to let them be , to live their life. Although I do not have money to spend on vet visits I am concerned for their well being and if there are any links you think I should read that would be appreciated.











Because of the lighting in some of the pictures their necks show up tanish, but they are mostly white except for the stripe along the back and then it starts the tan coloring where the neck meets the rest of the body.
They sure seemed happy , almost as if they didn't know if they were in a dream or not at first.

Welcome to BYC! You have a beautiful pair! One thing you should make sure to do is have a safe place for them at night where no predator can get in. Oh, and from the flapping picture I'm pretty sure they aren't pinioned.

 

[Patriciaallison]

I am so jelly belly over your geese. They are beautiful!

 

[jwlpoultry]

I think some here said that if a Brown Chinese gander crossed with a white Chinese goose it would be brown/grey with a white bib??

 

[Chena Farms]

Thank you jchny2000. I took your advice and went outside prepared in long sleeves, gloves, and boots ready to do business! I guess they sensed that I was ready to take them on because they eye balled me speculatively peeped at me and moved on about their business

Now hopefully they will continue to do that, but if not...I guess it will be time to get down and dirty and show them who is boss. Love those guys but they are making life difficult out here.

Thanks again for the post