The American Cemani Breeders Club...open forum

[birdman55]

So I believe it was on this forum someone talking about the only pure cemani has to have black dots on the inside of the shell. After looking this up I have found nobody that has ever gotten black dots on their insides of the shells. Probably bc that would be black mold and if u look it up that is what that is.

 

[bluenkimchi]

These little Thanksgiving day NN Hmong hatched from light blue eggs with black flecks inside the shell, so take that to only "real" cemani Lol

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[birdman55]

Did those come from bob n xia?

 

[bluenkimchi]

Did those come from bob n xia?

Nope, these are my friend's in CA own heritage line. They say blue eggs and straight comb are very slim, but not this line of Hmong with natural blue egg genes and NN lol.

 

[dboranch]

Would love some Hmong to help breed for meat Fibro to sell to the local Asian market but the one site I found that sells them and ships is just asking for your newborn for one pair

I was waiting to read this entire ‘Breeders Club’ thread before I commented but it’s like reading the novel War and Peace (with spurts of war & peace… Lol) and is taking too long so I will just jump right n.

If you are just looking for fm meat birds and are not picky about hybrids, I will sell you some hatching eggs if you have means to hatch them. I have been raising Hmong chickens for several years now (but I also raise many other breeds). I bought my entire large flock from someone who was moving out of state. He had been raising them for several years prior to me and he also bought them from someone years earlier who was moving out of state so my landrace line has been kept intact for many years. I have been selling the heck out of them to the local s/e Asian community (Central CA) for eating and ceremonial purposes but whenever they saw them they would comment how big they were. They are very solid, heavy and meaty! They have a pea comb and a very gamebird stature with a bird of prey hawk shape face. I have always assumed they were Hmong chickens. However, up until just recently I have discovered that I may have mistakenly identified the breed.

I have a hobby business and sell chicks on our local craigslist. By letting people come onto my property, I am very careful about bio-security. However, I wasn't prepared for the 2-legged predator that came in the night and stole a group of my Hmong hens and ALL my roosters! Although they left me with 11 hens, it is a little difficult to raise them with no rooster. Thankfully, I had a large batch of eggs in my incubator and luckily there are several very nice roosters that came from it but they will not be mature enough for a while longer. In the meantime, I put a nice Ayam Cemani rooster in with the girls. I have about 2 or 3 dozen eggs that are currently in lockdown and I am very curious to see what they will look like. I did not plan on cross breeding either my Asian landrace or my Cemanis but thought I would do it just until my Hmong cockerels became of age because I hated to see the eggs go to waste.

However, in my search for a Hmong rooster for my hens, I ran across Greenfire Farms new release for 2017 of their Belgium Liege Fighters (which are large, fm, pea combs, hawk face, and Asian gamebird in their background). I can’t be certain but my line seems to be a dead ringer for a Liege so I am beginning to wonder what I have (the past owner didn’t know)… In any event, it sure hasn’t stopped the Asian community from coming back each year for more and more. In addition, I have hatched out hundreds of Ayam Cemanis (GFF/TMA) and about 1 in every 100 chicks, I get a pure white Cemani (black to dark skin with gray/blue comb, wattles & feet). I have 6 of them right now that I am thinking of breeding them to my Asian landrace line because I hear the Hmongs like white feathered chickens in December but who knows???? I want to keep my Hmong/Liege line pure but don’t mind experimenting with a fm meat bird line.

 

[bluenkimchi]

I was waiting to read this entire ‘Breeders Club’ thread before I commented but it’s like reading the novel War and Peace (with spurts of war & peace… Lol) and is taking too long so I will just jump right n.

If you are just looking for fm meat birds and are not picky about hybrids, I will sell you some hatching eggs if you have means to hatch them. I have been raising Hmong chickens for several years now (but I also raise many other breeds). I bought my entire large flock from someone who was moving out of state. He had been raising them for several years prior to me and he also bought them from someone years earlier who was moving out of state so my landrace line has been kept intact for many years. I have been selling the heck out of them to the local s/e Asian community (Central CA) for eating and ceremonial purposes but whenever they saw them they would comment how big they were. They are very solid, heavy and meaty! They have a pea comb and a very gamebird stature with a bird of prey hawk shape face. I have always assumed they were Hmong chickens. However, up until just recently I have discovered that I may have mistakenly identified the breed.

I have a hobby business and sell chicks on our local craigslist. By letting people come onto my property, I am very careful about bio-security. However, I wasn't prepared for the 2-legged predator that came in the night and stole a group of my Hmong hens and ALL my roosters! Although they left me with 11 hens, it is a little difficult to raise them with no rooster. Thankfully, I had a large batch of eggs in my incubator and luckily there are several very nice roosters that came from it but they will not be mature enough for a while longer. In the meantime, I put a nice Ayam Cemani rooster in with the girls. I have about 2 or 3 dozen eggs that are currently in lockdown and I am very curious to see what they will look like. I did not plan on cross breeding either my Asian landrace or my Cemanis but thought I would do it just until my Hmong cockerels became of age because I hated to see the eggs go to waste.

However, in my search for a Hmong rooster for my hens, I ran across Greenfire Farms new release for 2017 of their Belgium Liege Fighters (which are large, fm, pea combs, hawk face, and Asian gamebird in their background). I can’t be certain but my line seems to be a dead ringer for a Liege so I am beginning to wonder what I have (the past owner didn’t know)… In any event, it sure hasn’t stopped the Asian community from coming back each year for more and more. In addition, I have hatched out hundreds of Ayam Cemanis (GFF/TMA) and about 1 in every 100 chicks, I get a pure white Cemani (black to dark skin with gray/blue comb, wattles & feet). I have 6 of them right now that I am thinking of breeding them to my Asian landrace line because I hear the Hmongs like white feathered chickens in December but who knows???? I want to keep my Hmong/Liege line pure but don’t mind experimenting with a fm meat bird line.

Do you have pics of your white sports? Love to see how they look like.

Thanks

 

[Peep-Chicken]

How do you tell what line they are? I totally forgot to ask what line the ones I bought are.