The "Ask Anything" to Nicalandia Thread

Just a theory.

Wondering if the mutation is like a Ptarmigan changing colors for the season, causing the feather to lose pigmentation to blend into the snow. Which the gene hasn't been identified.


Though the change in my birds isn't seasonal.
 
Here's the updated pictures of Smarty Pants.

Head
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Neck
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Middle between shoulders.
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I am wondering -- and I freely admit that I'm still beginning to learn this stuff -- can a chicken be both mottled and barred?

It's known that mottled birds often get more white with successive molts so would it be possible that this bird is barred, but also very poorly mottled so that the mottling wasn't visible in her youth?

This is my Mottled Java, Mocha, named because she was much darker and had less white than her sister, Latte.

Pre-molt:

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Today:

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I know for sure this is the same bird because I sold Latte while Mocha was broody and only have one Java.

Is this a genetic possibility or am I completely confused and barking up the wrong tree? :D
 
I am wondering -- and I freely admit that I'm still beginning to learn this stuff -- can a chicken be both mottled and barred?

It's known that mottled birds often get more white with successive molts so would it be possible that this bird is barred, but also very poorly mottled so that the mottling wasn't visible in her youth?

This is my Mottled Java, Mocha, named because she was much darker and had less white than her sister, Latte.

Pre-molt:

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Today:

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I know for sure this is the same bird because I sold Latte while Mocha was broody and only have one Java.

Is this a genetic possibility or am I completely confused and barking up the wrong tree? :D
Chickens can be both Barred, & mottled, yes. She'd still have some evidence of mottling since the beginning.

Her chick down was the same as a Barred rock, but I have no pictures of her when she was a baby.

It's true about mottled birds getting in more white with molts, I've had Mille Fleur D'uccles at one point, & now the only mottled bird I have is a Blue Mottled Japanese bantam mix hen.

One reason I don't believe this is mottling, is that Dino has no mottling in his background, neither did his son Goober, & his granddaughter is getting in the white on her too.

Pea(Wheaten Crele Orpington F3 X Buff Orpington)
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Seems like both, lineages have the same mutation.


Smarty Pants is a Cuckoo Easter Egger.
 
I am wondering -- and I freely admit that I'm still beginning to learn this stuff -- can a chicken be both mottled and barred?

It's known that mottled birds often get more white with successive molts so would it be possible that this bird is barred, but also very poorly mottled so that the mottling wasn't visible in her youth?

This is my Mottled Java, Mocha, named because she was much darker and had less white than her sister, Latte.

Pre-molt:

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View attachment 3363319


Today:

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I know for sure this is the same bird because I sold Latte while Mocha was broody and only have one Java.

Is this a genetic possibility or am I completely confused and barking up the wrong tree? :D
I'm not an expert but I do think mottling and barring can be on one bird. She isn't barred though, barring affects the whole feather in white stripes, not just the end portion of a feather. She'd have a much more striped look to her if she was barred. In the first photo for example; she's much too wholly black to be barred.
 

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