The "Ask Anything" to Nicalandia Thread

[Egg Snatcher]

Only if the white is dominant white and not recessive

Ok, I’ll have to test this with my whit Silkie

Breeding blue to black should produce half blue and half black offspring. When breeding blue to blue you will statistically get 25% black, 50% blue, 25% splash. So from the perspective of breeding blue to blue it could seem as though the black was hiding in the blue.
The chart that 3KillerBs provided is a good reference for color.

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If both of your breeders are are silkie without the frizzle gene the offspring will just be silkie. Two silkies don't produce smooth feathered offspring and as long as there is no frizzle gene in either parent the offspring will all be silkie, no frizzles or sizzles.

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Is it true if you breed a black Silkie to a white Silkie you get a paint? Thanks
I don't understand what is usually considered paint, unless it is simply a derivative of dominant white. I have had discussions concerning it and it seems whoever and myself that is in the discussion are never able to connect on whether it's a derivative or a seperate gene. I know how dominant white works, but from the discussions it seems I don't understand paint. In my breeding endeavors I have gotten chickens that in appearance look like the paint silkies, but they came from my dominant white birds and when they were bred to solid colored birds they produced just like the normal dominant whites do.
I'll have to leave that to the silkie color experts. Here is a silkie thread.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/silkies-they’re-simply-spectacular.1334299/post-26551705

Thanks!

 

[MysteryChicken]

@troyer I’ve got another question about my silkies. Because I’m breeding a blue to a possible black, will some of the chicks be split for black, if my rooster is black? And is their a chance that any will have smooth frizzle feathers or will half be sizzle half be Silkie?

Is it true if you breed a black Silkie to a white Silkie you get a paint? Thanks

BBS inheritance chart, with percentages.

 

[MysteryChicken]

Only if the white is dominant white and not recessive

Exactly, either Dominant White I/I, for paints, as long as there's no other color leakage like red for example. But if you want leaky paints, then go for it.

 

[3KillerBs]

Thanks! Was just wondering, I saw a chart for breeding chocolate and it showed some being split for chocolate, so I didn’t know if it worked the same for blue. Thank you

I don't know anything about chocolate.

Are blue Australorp just selective breeding of black Australorp. If so what are the blue markers to look for.

Undoubtedly the color was originally brought in by crossing to a blue breed and then selecting back to Australorp type.

Black x black will never give blue unless a random mutation happens.

 

[NatJ]

Thanks! Was just wondering, I saw a chart for breeding chocolate and it showed some being split for chocolate, so I didn’t know if it worked the same for blue. Thank you

Chocolate is a recessive gene. A split has the gene for not-chocolate, but also carries the gene for chocolate without showing it.

Blue behaves differently because it is incompletely dominant.
You could say a blue chicken is the split.
Two copies of the blue gene makes splash.
Two copies of the not-blue gene makes black.
One copy of the blue gene and one not-blue makes a blue chicken.

(Chocolate is also different because it's on the Z sex chromosome, while blue is not. So with chocolate, a rooster has ZZ and can be black, chocolate, or split. A hen has ZW, so either she is chocolate or she is not chocolate, because she has only one Z chromosome.)

 

[Reave]

From what I’ve seen off of ameraucana alliance....

Belated thank you, I think I get it! Separated lines on the gold/silver base and extra melanizers for the E^R based birds makes a lot more sense than where my brain was trying to go with it, it was trying to needlessly over-complicate it.

 

[MysteryChicken]

For adding in the barring gene into my Giant Silkie Project, should I make an F1 Heritage Plymouth Barred Rock X Silkie, or add in Heritage Plymouth Barred Rock into my F2 lines? Or doesn't it matter much?

 

[grizleyguy]

Thanx

 

[I Like Turkeys]

For adding in the barring gene into my Giant Silkie Project, should I make an F1 Heritage Plymouth Barred Rock X Silkie, or add in Heritage Plymouth Barred Rock into my F2 lines? Or doesn't it matter much?

Simple question: instead of going through the work of breeding from plymouth barred rocks into your line, then breeding out all the unwanted traits they come with, why don't you get cuckoo silkies, who have the traits you need(except size) and breed them to your big silkies until you have a cuckoo big silkie?
Is it because of their size, or are you unable to locate some?
Putting that aside, I would go with barred rock x silkie though, the offspring would exhibit more silkie traits than if bred to an f2.

 

[MysteryChicken]

Simple question: instead of going through the work of breeding from plymouth barred rocks into your line, then breeding out all the unwanted traits they come with, why don't you get cuckoo silkies, who have the traits you need(except size) and breed them to your big silkies until you have a cuckoo big silkie?
Is it because of their size, or are you unable to locate some?
Putting that aside, I would go with barred rock x silkie though, the offspring would exhibit more silkie traits than if bred to an f2.

Cuckoo Silkies are hard to find, & when I do find them, they're outrageously priced. Plus, they're bantam sized, which is something I need to avoid when breeding my line.

Thanks, I wasn't sure, so I had to ask. So, Heritage Plymouth Barred Rock X Silkie it is.
Gonna use my rooster, since he's double Barred, so all offspring would have the barring gene.

Also, he's a big boy.