The coyotes are here again...

[Cayuga momma]

How do you get the wolves to pee on the tampons?
I've done the human urine defense and this is my thoughts......
"I have found that peeing will work as a coyote deterent but getting close enough to pee on them is difficult.
You also have to consider the chance that they may attack. Not only are your vulnerable parts exposed, but it can be hard to run with your pants around your ankles.
I find it much easier to just pee on my chickens to keep them safe"

OMG! Funniest thing I've read all week!

 

[biophiliac]

OMG! Funniest thing I've read all week!

X2!

 

[cmom]

How do you get the wolves to pee on the tampons?
I've done the human urine defense and this is my thoughts......
"I have found that peeing will work as a coyote deterent but getting close enough to pee on them is difficult.
You also have to consider the chance that they may attack. Not only are your vulnerable parts exposed, but it can be hard to run with your pants around your ankles.
I find it much easier to just pee on my chickens to keep them safe"

OMG! Funniest thing I've read all week!

Ditto...

 

[cmom]

I have had my electric wires up for many years and no fires but I do keep the grass and weeds off of it so if a critter comes in contact it will know. I see coyotes quite often on a game camera lurking around my coops and pens but they know the electric wire is there. Especially in the spring/early summer I have heard critters come in contact with the wire and they don't test it out again once they know it's there. I did some research on fires being started by electric fences or wire. This is what I have found. Most often if a fire was started by a electric wire fence, it is usually because the fence was installed improperly or not properly maintained.

"There is a misconception that dry vegetation touching an electric fence can cause fires – this is extremely unlikely. In order to create a short, vegetation needs to be damp or green so therefore the vegetation will not ignite. Once vegetation dries out it becomes non-conductive meaning any short created disappears.

The only conceivable but still very unlikely scenario where an electric fence could start a fire is when a wire shorts to an grounded metal object, such as a steel post or wire where insulators have broken, in the presence of abundant dry vegetation. This scenario is very unlikely to occur in practice, and even less so on a well-maintained fence. Producers with fences on steel posts or using earthed wires are advised to ensure the live wires are well insulated and the fence is clear of vegetation. If these factors are of concern then on days of severe or above fire risk, consider switching the energizer off"

"The ones today are so much different and should not be "burning" the grasses."

 

[varidgerunner]

I've been around electric fences for around forty years now. Have miles of the stuff. All they need is a deer or a tree limb to get grounded enough to shoot out sparks. If it's on a charger worth having anyway. Always a piece of wire working out of the ground somewhere on an old fence line, usually steel posts, even a rock with sufficient iron content. Have seen several fires started in such a manner. When you see a burnt place and find a short in the fence it is pretty obvious what happened. I can totally understand why they might be illegal in places that have trouble with brush fires. Everybody might not have a tiny chicken fence that they can see the entirety of from a bedroom window, in order to keep it maintained.

Have also trapped many coyotes that were crossing electric fences. Have seen tracks in the snow, they either jump a low spot, or just hit it at a run and pop through between the wires. This in country where there are a lot of electric fences, and where coyotes that were afraid of electric fences wouldn't survive long. Have chased coyotes with hounds and had the coyotes use the electric fence to throw hounds off their trail. If you want an electric fence that will keep coyotes out, you better have the only electric fence around, or have a lot of wires on it, with some of them grounded. A fence like that can be challenging to maintain if it is on much of a scale. Electric netting is good, but most of it is short enough that coyotes can jump it without even breaking their stride.

 

[cmom]

I have had coyotes jump my 5' fence and kill some birds. Since I put the netting nothing had tried to go over it.

 

[roosterhavoc]

I've been around electric fences for around forty years now. Have miles of the stuff. All they need is a deer or a tree limb to get grounded enough to shoot out sparks. If it's on a charger worth having anyway. Always a piece of wire working out of the ground somewhere on an old fence line, usually steel posts, even a rock with sufficient iron content. Have seen several fires started in such a manner. When you see a burnt place and find a short in the fence it is pretty obvious what happened. I can totally understand why they might be illegal in places that have trouble with brush fires. Everybody might not have a tiny chicken fence that they can see the entirety of from a bedroom window, in order to keep it maintained.

Have also trapped many coyotes that were crossing electric fences. Have seen tracks in the snow, they either jump a low spot, or just hit it at a run and pop through between the wires. This in country where there are a lot of electric fences, and where coyotes that were afraid of electric fences wouldn't survive long. Have chased coyotes with hounds and had the coyotes use the electric fence to throw hounds off their trail. If you want an electric fence that will keep coyotes out, you better have the only electric fence around, or have a lot of wires on it, with some of them grounded. A fence like that can be challenging to maintain if it is on much of a scale. Electric netting is good, but most of it is short enough that coyotes can jump it without even breaking their stride.

For the purposes of raising chickens I’d say that most would have a much smaller electric fence set up. Unless you have miles of penned chickens I don’t see how it’s relevant.

 

[varidgerunner]

Take that up with the law makers. Make an exception for people that only have a couple hundred feet of chicken fence electrified. Just don't make blanket statements about the impossibility of an electric fence starting a brush fire. All they need is the right set of circumstances, and about two seconds of being in a state of less than ideal maintenance.

 

[roosterhavoc]

Take that up with the law makers. Make an exception for people that only have a couple hundred feet of chicken fence electrified. Just don't make blanket statements about the impossibility of an electric fence starting a brush fire. All they need is the right set of circumstances, and about two seconds of being in a state of less than ideal maintenance.

Nowhere did I say an electric fence couldn’t start a fire. That was already established earlier in the thread by the OP local laws. You just restated “electric fences cause fires” Yes they can in areas out west or in really dry areas. That’s obvious.

 

[Lady Lionheart]

How do you get the wolves to pee on the tampons?
I've done the human urine defense and this is my thoughts......
"I have found that peeing will work as a coyote deterent but getting close enough to pee on them is difficult.
You also have to consider the chance that they may attack. Not only are your vulnerable parts exposed, but it can be hard to run with your pants around your ankles.
I find it much easier to just pee on my chickens to keep them safe"

This is awesome! Made me and hubby laugh so much! Thanks for making my evening so much better with laughter!