the curious case of a chick with two dads ( a head scratcher for sure)

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This is Phoebe. I posted her photo last year as her paternal heritage has me scratching my head. When I shared her last year as a teenager I was asked to update with adult photos. I will try to keep it short and to the point.

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Shaggy is Phoebe's mom. I know this is Phoebe's mom without question as Shaggy laid the egg in my lap one afternoon. Shaggy is a cross between a red naked neck Turken rooster and a red bantam frizzle Cochin hen. This is Shaggy below.

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When Shaggy laid the egg she had been in a pen with these 2 young roosters being the only males for about 60 days. An Ayam Cemani we called Handsome and a white headed black Polish rooster who we called Beetlejuice were brought in for a side project and had not been placed in separate breeding pens yet.

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At the time Handsome was the only bird I had on property with the fibro characteristics and Beetlejuice was the only crested bird I had on property. They were not free range and no chance of another rooster coming on property for breeding. Phoebe has the naked neck and lightly feathered feet from her mother. It also appears she has inherited the dark black eyes and black skin from Handsome as well as the crest from Beetlejuice. Phoebe's body type is small and low to the ground just like Shaggy. As a younger bird she appeared to have a single comb but as she grew the points of her single comb started to lie to one side or the other and slowly they separated into a odd type comb that is not a single like Handsome and Shaggy nor the comb of Bettlejuice who virtually had no comb at all. Both roosters have passed away since Pheobe has grown up. Phoebe has gold laced feathers on her chest. Handsome had gold leakage on his neck but Shaggy also has birds with gold leakage on her paternal side so it could have come from either side of Phoebe's pedigree. My side project objective was to produce a Fibro Crested Naked Neck, I just didn't expect to get it in one generation. I have since produced very similar birds to Pheobe but in cream colors by taking my F1 Cemani naked neck hens to a polish Rooster. Would love opinions on the paternal possibilities. When I posted this before there was a suggestion that she could be a Silkie mix but there is no Silkie heritage. It was also suggested that chickens can have two fathers contribute to create one bird. I don't remember what they called it but I was unable to find much information on it.

I will also post another chick I have currently that is kind of odd. its title will be 50/50 chick. It's something in the water out here in Vegas I guess, lol.
 
I still don’t know what to think of her, but the comb is the normal result of a V x single cross. Where the black skin comes I couldn’t explain.
Is it possible she had two dads?
I’ve heard it can happen in litters of mammals - but I don’t know about chickens.
 
Is it possible she had two dads?
I’ve heard it can happen in litters of mammals - but I don’t know about chickens.
I am kinda new to the fibro birds but I didn't have any birds with the gypsy coloring can it skip several generations?
There is aother bird on here I just saw that shows traits from both rooster the owner has. So it is possible.

As for the gypsy face, it just kinda showed up on one of my birds, no clue where it really came from, so that's just my experience
 
Is it possible she had two dads?
I’ve heard it can happen in litters of mammals - but I don’t know about chickens.
As I said, I’m not sure.
There is aother bird on here I just saw that shows traits from both rooster the owner has. So it is possible.

As for the gypsy face, it just kinda showed up on one of my birds, no clue where it really came from, so that's just my experience
Do you have a link to that thread?
 
I don't believe that it's possible to have two fathers for one chick. It makes no sense. My bet is that the Polish is the father, and Shaggy has some hidden fibro genes in her ancestry that found expression in that particular pairing and offspring. Shaggy herself has a purplish cast to her skin, at least in the photo.
I will have to disagree here. Isn’t the fibro gene dominant? Shaggy would have a lot more indications that she carried it (and some hints to where she got it from!) if she did carry it. And for it to pop up when crossed with a white-skinned bird who’s got no fibro in his heritage…it’s about as likely as some crazy genetic mishap what wound up making a chick with two fathers.
 

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