The EE braggers thread!!!

And now you are going to ask us to sex them and tell you what they will look like as grown birds, right?
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Bruce


...I just posted their pictures because someone had asked if anyone was hatching
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...and I think they're cute...

I know they will look like these chickens, but more "blended"



And about half will be boys and half girls
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But if I had to guess...

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Boy
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Boy
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Boy

Meanie
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Willow
 
LOVE HER NAME!!!

I went for Little house on the prairie names this time, last time it seemed to be "birds who are not chickens" as I had a "raven" "seagull" and "penguin" LOL!

I must try food next time!

Willow
I was hungry when I named her and I wanted Pancakes. Plus she kinda looks like a pancake with syrup and butter on it. She's a cutie... Never did get my pancakes though
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To all the EE Braggers on here, I know a lot of us frequent the Ameraucana thread as well. I also know a number of us have not been well received when asking questions about the SOP of the breed and questioning the issue of EE vs. Ameraucana. I don't want to offend anyone but in my opinion you can't breed two birds of the same breed together and get offspring that would be considered an entirely different breed. As a fan of both Ameraucanas and EE's, I decided that it might be time to open a thread where anyone can discuss anything they want about Ameraucanas (APA, Non-Standard, and Project birds). We all need a friendly environment to discuss Ameraucanas and explain to people who are new to the breed what category their birds should be listed as. I know a number of people on here have purchased said "Ameraucanas" only to be told that based on their coloring they are EE's. This thread is wonderful and I really enjoy the friendly environment. This is the type of atmosphere I would like to bring over to the new Ameraucana thread I created. A place where people can feel comfortable discussing anything about the breed. Hopefully, some of the old-time breeders will rejoin to discuss and share the valuable information they have regarding the breed.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/...-discussed-apa-non-standard-and-project-birds
 
I just finished reading your posts on the Ameraucana thread. Well said! I was in your position last week (hiding under my chair). I just couldn't help myself I had to post regarding the EE/Non standard debate. It just blows my mind, and doesn't make an ounce of sense. If you breed a Ameraucana to an Ameraucana you have to get an Ameraucana! Genetically, there is no possible way to get an entirely different breed on chicken! Technically, you can only get a non-standard bird. Is there any other breed of chicken that calls non-standard birds an entirely different breed? I haven't found one yet.

Well... Since Easter Egger is a catchall term and not a name of a breed...the term Easter Egger only indicates the presence of the blue egg gene, but not necessarily a pristine pedigree... I think this is why non-standard Ameraucanas still fall into the Easter Egger category. I feel like in a lot of ways, it's like the term "Pit Bull" in dogs. Pit Bulls are not a breed... it's just the name people use to refer to ANY dog that fits the Pit Bull reputation, and appearance... specifically that of the American Staffordshire Terrier, whether they are pure Amstaffs or not.

If someone breeds two Ameraucana's and gets a percentage of chicks that do not conform... then something is going on in the original Ameraucana pair's genetics that should call into question the purity of the breeding pair, because purebreds are supposed to breed true 100% of the time, not counting identified and predictable stacked recessives, like splash chicks. And if they don't, then their pedigree is really not all it's cracked up to be and the whole Ameraucana vs EE debate is out the window anyway. But this is really difficult to do in a breed that is by all accounts still very new, and should probably be considered still in development.
 
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Well... Since Easter Egger is a catchall term and not a name of a breed...the term Easter Egger only indicates the presence of the blue egg gene, but not necessarily a pristine pedigree... I think this is why non-standard Ameraucanas still fall into the Easter Egger category. I feel like in a lot of ways, it's like the term "Pit Bull" in dogs. Pit Bulls are not a breed... it's just the name of ANY dog that fits the Pit Bull reputation, and appearance... specifically that of the American Staffordshire Terrier, whether they are pure Amstaffs or not.

If someone breeds two Ameraucana's and gets a percentage of chicks that do not conform... then something is going on in the original Ameraucana pair's genetics that should call into question the purity of the breeding pair, because purebreds are supposed to breed true 100% not counting identified and predictable stacked recessives. And if they don't, then their pedigree is really not all it's cracked up to be and the whole Ameraucana vs EE debate is out the window anyway. But this is really difficult to do in a breed that is by all accounts still very new, and should probably be considered still in development.


This is the only problem I have with the current classification system. Certain traits may never breed true 100% of the time. Mostly because within breeds genetic mutations of many types an variety's do occur, some of those affecting color. There is no such thing as breeding true 100% of the time whether it is due to recessive phenotypic traits or a genetic anomally. If you breed an Ameraucana to an Ameraucana, the offspring can genetically only be considered Ameraucana. Where as it seems to me an EE can genetically be an Ameraucana and the term also applies to cross breeds. I have heard breeders of Ameraucanas state that out of every 100 chicks hatched they may have 3 that do not conform to the standard and are immediately classified as EE's. Does this thinking apply to any other breed of chicken? I don't think people have a problem with the standard of perfection in general, but a lot of the confusion associated with the breed comes from their classification system. I really don't want to offend anyone especially on this thread. I am a huge fan of EE's and Ameraucanas alike. I just wanted to create a thread where people who didn't feel comfortable posing questions on the other Ameraucana thread would have a place to discuss the breed and non-standard birds and EE's if they want to.
 
I wanted a white EE so bad and I got a yellow chick...was so excited. Now i think/know my pullet (sold as sexed) is a boy... Not really a big deal normally but there were 3 EEs and the kids each picked one so now he may be saved since I don't have the heart to butcher my daughter's baby. I may have to change my mind about the Brahma boy that I was going to let grow up, he may hit the bachelor pen until May
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In case there is still hope has anyone ever had a pullet with a pinkish comb at 6 weeks??........................................Didn't think so...shucks!
 
I wanted a white EE so bad and I got a yellow chick...was so excited. Now i think/know my pullet (sold as sexed) is a boy... Not really a big deal normally but there were 3 EEs and the kids each picked one so now he may be saved since I don't have the heart to butcher my daughter's baby. I may have to change my mind about the Brahma boy that I was going to let grow up, he may hit the bachelor pen until May
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In case there is still hope has anyone ever had a pullet with a pinkish comb at 6 weeks??........................................Didn't think so...shucks!

I'm sorry. It's so frustrating when our favorites turn out to be boys. I personally have not had a 6 week old pullet with a reddish comb. Can you post a pic? Are it's feathers coming in differently than the others?
 
LOVE HER NAME!!!

I went for Little house on the prairie names this time, last time it seemed to be "birds who are not chickens" as I had a "raven" "seagull" and "penguin" LOL!

I must try food next time!

Willow
x2! What a great name! I love the idea of "birds who are not chickens" names. I might have to steal that for some of mine this year. Too cute!
 

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