The EE braggers thread!!!

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lualshannon said:
Hello Outrun Acres,

Three days ago, I subscribed Ameraucana thread, and am deeply sorry that I did! The reason for my joining the group was to find out about "true Ameraucana birds, so to be able to purchase some. Your response to my questions was very kind, and helped me to find this thread. Also, another very pleasant breeder contacted me via the PM., which I really appreciate both responses; thank you!

My question on the Ameraucana thread was asked honestly, and innocently, without any intentions of starting a nasty debate. I was completely unaware of the never ending, very unpleasant, and at times quite rude disagreements. My question in short was: "if they have, ABC. accepted colors, they are classified as;Ameraucana, and if they are any other color, they are EE. I am having difficulty understanding how they can be classified as different breed if they are the progeny of the same parents?" Rules of genetics can not be changed at someone's whim.

I subscribed to BYC in the hopes of finding good, responsible breeders to purchase the birds I would like to have in my life. I feel very lucky to have found 2 excellent breeders of Orpingtons, and HRIR, to add several birds to my small menagerie. Past Nov., I bought a lovely, gorgeous Ameracuana pullet from a person and paid good money for, which I believe she is worth every penny of it. Yes, she started to lay bluest of the blue eggs. But, recently I've found out that she is NOT an Ameraucana, but an EE. Actually, I am no longer sure what she is. The main reason for me to be on the other thread was to learn, and hopefully find a breeder; instead, unknowingly, I touched a very sensitive nerve which ended up causing yet another controversy. My, oh my! it was only an honest single post! It was a mistake; but, a good lesson to learn from. I will never go onto the Ameraucana thread ever again; even if they are the only ones left on the face of the earth! What I feel sorry are the poor birds..

I am very involved in the dog show world, and we look at the new comers into our breeds with gratitude, and treat them kindly; answer their questions however much they may seem funny, or unbelievable. If we shun and chase them out of our breed, they will go on to the next one, and we will end up being the looser. New comers into any breed of animals are the future of that breed. If we don't have the novice to mentor, share our quality animals with, to continue to improve the breed, and to carry our banner, it shall become no-more in good time..
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Thank you for your kind words. I am so sorry they decided to spew their venom at you too. I absolutley love this thread and know you will too. I did recently start a new Ameraucana thread for all the dissatisfied subscribers on the other one. I only started it yesterday and am hoping it will take off. So far it is doing fairly well. Some very nice people have joined as well as some knowlegable breeders. One of them was actually involved in creating Ameraucana breed and getting it approved as an APA breed. So far the atmosphere has been very pleasant and it seems everyone just wants to learn more about the breed and share their own personal experiences. Please come join us over there as well.

I agree with everything you just said. My background in centered around dogs as well as horses and production animals. I have a small background in genetics and some of the statements other subscribers made on that thread really made my brain hurt, because it just didn't make good scientific sense.

Here is the link to the new Ameraucana Breed Thread:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/...n-standard-and-project-birds/50#post_10625506
 
Well being as EE's are so wonderfully unique and colorful I thought it would be fun to share some pic's of my young birds. Still not sure of sex, right now I am thinking pullets? They are somewhere around 8-10 weeks old. They were part of my friends project pen and she just had way too many chickens, so I took a few :).








 
TW1Kell said:
Outrun, are you talking about the "sneak attack rape" habit that so many young Roos exhibit? If so, I am told (by old-timer raisers) that they grow out of that. I am praying that it's true, because my younger Amie Roos are at that stage, and spend lots of time in the isolation cells, (I should point out that I am former military and then a Correctional Officer for a total of 34 years) thinking about their crimes. (I know, they aren't thinking about anything but doing it all over again) We can always hope, otherwise, they might have to find another home. I seem to have trouble eating someone that I raised from a 2-3 day-old baby. I just can't say, "That one dies, that one lives." Maybe I've seen too much death. I almost cried when something killed Lacey, the horribly injured lil Red Sexlink that I nursed back to health who would come talk to me and wait for a ride on my shoulder. haha! Ex-Army Captain and Sergeant, and SWaT CO. hahaha Crying over a chicken. My biker buddies all think it's amusing, but...they all draw pistols and investigate when we hear cackling from the "yard" and are hanging out with a beer in the backyard.
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I hope you are right and he grows out of it. Right now he is a big bully. I have to young boys one is only three years old and he was afraid of him for awhile. Which of course didn't sit well with me. He has started to develop his throwing arm and has decided it is fun to throw them at the rooster. Not an ideal situation, but it beats that bugger flying at him with his spurs. He is a bit cowardly, he waits until I turn my back and start walking away before he decides to fly at me. I kicked him really hard once and thought I might have broken his neck. It's just no fun having a rooster like that. He is a pig and eats all day. Because of this he doesn't do a very good job protecting his ladies. My husbands polish rooster does a much better job and really desires to steer clear of all human contact.

I think it's wonderful you are so kind to your chickens! There is nothing wrong with crying over a chicken! We need a little more compassion in this world. My mentor was a Lieutenant Colonel in the Marine Core and he was a very kind and gentle person, especially with animals. My husband has also helped me nurse sick chickens back to help and he is a general contractor. But given your background in law forcement it does create quite the mental image :).
 
Outrun Acres said:
Well being as EE's are so wonderfully unique and colorful I thought it would be fun to share some pic's of my young birds. Still not sure of sex, right now I am thinking pullets? They are somewhere around 8-10 weeks old. They were part of my friends project pen and she just had way too many chickens, so I took a few :).








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I love those colors...and feather feet too
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Outrun Acres said:
Well being as EE's are so wonderfully unique and colorful I thought it would be fun to share some pic's of my young birds. Still not sure of sex, right now I am thinking pullets? They are somewhere around 8-10 weeks old. They were part of my friends project pen and she just had way too many chickens, so I took a few :).



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This color is really stunning! What did your friend mix to get this?
 
I'd love to see a lemon EE! Has anyone ever had one? Is it genetically possible? 3rd from the bottom bird kind of reminded me a lemon color around the neck. :)
 

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