The evils of NAIS

[Ridgerunner]

Think of the recent peanut butter salmonella problem. Too bad there was not a chip in that so it could be traced.

 

[scbatz33]

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What about crunchy? Smooth would be a bit harder I think!

 

[beak]

It was scary watching the news when they were killing all those flocks in Nam or Korea or wherever it was. It seems like a really expensive proposition. Could you imagine the database required to track millions of animals with a satellite? I'm sure the technology is there though. I would think it would be more realistic to monitor where people have avian livestock and have a kill zone around an outbreak. It could just as easily be an infected bird mingling with a free range flock or an uncovered run, but I like the agri business scenario better. Either way your flock is dead. I can understand them moving fast on an avian flu outbreak. We eat a lot of chicken in the US.

 

[scbatz33]

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The US government can't keep out of it's own way. I am very unhappy aboutt some of these new proposals and I wonder how much more of our money are they gonna take to pay for these ginormous expansion programs!

They don't need new laws, they need to find a realistic way to enforce the laws already here. All the new legislation does is force law abiding citizens to break the law. The folks who broke the law before aren't going to suddenly stop breaking the law just because they make a new one.

These ag laws are no different than the DOT laws that keep being changed every 6 months. The truck drivers who were breaking the laws to begin with are still breaking the laws now. All they have done is tighten the reins on the drivers and companies that were obeying the laws before and have made it harder to make a living and get their jobs done.

 

[waynesgarden]

I've noticed these threads get shut down when I or someone else asks that people present the specific language in the proposed regulations to demonstrate claims such as ".....if you register with NAIS, you have to buy a device" or that I will have to micro-chip my hens or that it is a first step towards micro-chipping every citizen and even their cats and dogs.

Not sure why some get testy when asked for documentation. I prefer to know if what is being said is true before joining the cause and writing my representatives.

And for the record, I am neither pro nor anti-NAIS. I will admit to being pro-fact and anti-speculation.

On with the games.

Wayne

 

[speckledhen]

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Hence, my suggestion that everyone read the current NAIS proposal on the USDA's website for themselves. That is where you must start, but they are not finished with this proposal that I know of, so it could be tweaked in various places before they are done.

 

[B. Saffles Farms]

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Several people have shown you "documentation" and its never good enough to satisfy you.

ETA: Before you ask, Im not going back and searching thru the several threads to show you.

 

[waynesgarden]

Anyone interested in actual documentation needs to refer to the proposed regulations as Speckledhen recommends.

Without rehashing old debates, if one believes "Regulation A" to require "Action B," then to document this properly, one must reference "Regulation A" and point to the clause that requires "Action B."

One can not merely point to "Website C" which makes the same claims that "Action B" is required without actually demonstrating it's truthfulness by referencing "Regulation A," but merely restates a popular, undemonstrated belief.

Simple logic, really.

Demand documentation.

Wayne


{edited for spelling}

 

[NYREDS]

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I'm pretty familiar with the Bible & I don't recall any Biblical prohibition against microchipping.

 

[iajewel]

Since I have been in trouble for posting about NAIS Im just going to post this link ... its good reading.. and short articles.

http://www.newswithviews.com/Hannes/doreenA.htm