The Fricken Chicken story!

[Mmanist]

Sorry @Mmanist for all the goats.

Here's the babies born yesterday day.

Triplets: 2 boys 1 girl ( one boy was dead)View attachment 2523492View attachment 2523493
Twins: 1 boy 1 girl (they're in our basement, they're very loud)
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Twins: 1 boy 1 girl ( girl was dead)
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Born today
Twins: 1 boy 1 girl
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Single: Boy
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Single? Premee way to early to be born
Twins: 1boy 1 girl
No pic yet they're still wet and gooey.

What kind is the little black and white goat?

 

[BY Bob]

She's tiny. It's hard to show how tiny she is! Here's her compared to a cup.View attachment 2523372

Whoa! She is tiny. Keep her warm with those cuddles.

 

[BY Bob]

Just went out to check goats. Two more!

They just keep coming! Congrats!

 

[Egg Snatcher]

What kind is the little black and white goat?

Mom is Nigrean Dwarf dad Mini Nebean. We think she's a dwarf. Theta why her head looks funny.

Whoa! She is tiny. Keep her warm with those cuddles.

I'll try!

They just keep coming! Congrats!

Thanks, this morning 2 more! Both boys. I wish there was a girl, because it would be one of the only baby's from my Stupid (that's his name, he was a buck) I wish it wouldn't be so cold. The cold took one of the little boys, but at leased we have one! We have 16 babies in the house!

 

[BY Bob]

Sorry @Mmanist for all the goats.

Here's the babies born yesterday day.

Triplets: 2 boys 1 girl ( one boy was dead)View attachment 2523492View attachment 2523493
Twins: 1 boy 1 girl (they're in our basement, they're very loud)
View attachment 2523495View attachment 2523496
Twins: 1 boy 1 girl ( girl was dead)
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Born today
Twins: 1 boy 1 girl
View attachment 2523506View attachment 2523507
Single: Boy
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Single? Premee way to early to be born
Twins: 1boy 1 girl
No pic yet they're still wet and gooey.

@Kris5902 check these little ones out!

 

[Kris5902]

@Egg Snatcher do you breed for multiples? We raise sheep and beef here, and although I’m looking at at least 5-10 years on being able to actually get some control over the farming operations, I’m thinking I want to move away from multiples beyond twins. We have major issues here with huge singles that need to be pulled, and twins that get attacked by Ravens and Eagles at birth, triplets and quads almost alway have 1 babe that doesn’t make it... we just had a set of quads the first two came out and got cleaned up, put mama and babes into a stall and she was refusing to stand, eventually they called up the farm manager to “check her” and there was one dead in womb and another that needed resuscitated. I’m thinking I want to move towards breeding for singles max and increasing the size of the ewes. Trying to have small ewes birthing large lambs doesn’t make sense to me. I had no idea goats did more than twins! I mostly work with cattle and chickens, and twinning is almost unheard of in our beef herd.

just realized I should have made this a PM! Oops

 

[Mmanist]

@Egg Snatcher do you breed for multiples? We raise sheep and beef here, and although I’m looking at at least 5-10 years on being able to actually get some control over the farming operations, I’m thinking I want to move away from multiples beyond twins. We have major issues here with huge singles that need to be pulled, and twins that get attacked by Ravens and Eagles at birth, triplets and quads almost alway have 1 babe that doesn’t make it... we just had a set of quads the first two came out and got cleaned up, put mama and babes into a stall and she was refusing to stand, eventually they called up the farm manager to “check her” and there was one dead in womb and another that needed resuscitated. I’m thinking I want to move towards breeding for singles max and increasing the size of the ewes. Trying to have small ewes birthing large lambs doesn’t make sense to me. I had no idea goats did more than twins! I mostly work with cattle and chickens, and twinning is almost unheard of in our beef herd.

just realized I should have made this a PM! Oops

You are just fine! I like reading all the lovely info anyways!

 

[BY Bob]

@Egg Snatcher do you breed for multiples? We raise sheep and beef here, and although I’m looking at at least 5-10 years on being able to actually get some control over the farming operations, I’m thinking I want to move away from multiples beyond twins. We have major issues here with huge singles that need to be pulled, and twins that get attacked by Ravens and Eagles at birth, triplets and quads almost alway have 1 babe that doesn’t make it... we just had a set of quads the first two came out and got cleaned up, put mama and babes into a stall and she was refusing to stand, eventually they called up the farm manager to “check her” and there was one dead in womb and another that needed resuscitated. I’m thinking I want to move towards breeding for singles max and increasing the size of the ewes. Trying to have small ewes birthing large lambs doesn’t make sense to me. I had no idea goats did more than twins! I mostly work with cattle and chickens, and twinning is almost unheard of in our beef herd.

just realized I should have made this a PM! Oops

Such an interesting read.....

 

[Kris5902]

You are just fine! I like reading all the lovely info anyways!

Such an interesting read.....

Thanks, but I could go on, and on, and on on the genetics and line breeding and such forth. What we have done with domesticating animals and over breeding for “desirable” traits like multiple Births and large offspring, but sheep and I assume goats (I should flip my baby over and check but she’s peacefully sleeping), only have two teats; so with triplets or more someone always gets shorted on feeding. They are also much smaller and have slower growth rates... at least from what I have seen in our flock.

So, is the additional animal ‘head’ really “worth” it in a slow, pastured based system for meat in the long run? They are also higher maintenance, needing bottle supplementation, and are significantly smaller animals actually worth the extra work, chance of losing the ewe, and the smaller size and growth rates on all of the siblings? I’m thinking (when I have more influence on the operations here) of looking at working on eliminating triplets and Quads. And monitoring the Hybrid vigor and large single lambs that have exceptionally hard births and sometimes results in the death of both lamb and ewe?

 

[Mmanist]

Thanks, but I could go on, and on, and on on the genetics and line breeding and such forth. What we have done with domesticating animals and over breeding for “desirable” traits like multiple Births and large offspring, but sheep and I assume goats (I should flip my baby over and check but she’s peacefully sleeping), only have two teats; so with triplets or more someone always gets shorted on feeding. They are also much smaller and have slower growth rates... at least from what I have seen in our flock.

So, is the additional animal ‘head’ really “worth” it in a slow, pastured based system for meat in the long run? They are also higher maintenance, needing bottle supplementation, and are significantly smaller animals actually worth the extra work, chance of losing the ewe, and the smaller size and growth rates on all of the siblings? I’m thinking (when I have more influence on the operations here) of looking at working on eliminating triplets and Quads. And monitoring the Hybrid vigor and large single lambs that have exceptionally hard births and sometimes results in the death of both lamb and ewe?
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I'm not a goat person. I'd love to be. They are silly things. But I'm apparently allergic to them lol so I love on them 1 day out of the year. When I walk through the 4h barns during fair. Lol I seriously would have goats, if they didn't make me itchy.