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I hope your daughter has been taking notes of things that have been said by the woman and when that way if they bring a case she will have her notes to refer back to. Praying that all turns out well.
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Thank you all for your kind words. We are keeping our fingers crossed. I came across a link on a small thread that I'd like to share. There's enough newbies, including me, that can learn from this.

http://ramblingredneckmom.blogspot.com/2011/04/how-to-process-chickens-at-home.html
 
The fact that the vet stated the dog only needed antibiotics and eye drops for 14 days, meaning the dog had a good prognosis; the judge will probably not award the woman money for the value of the dog.

Since she couldn't pick the dog up the day it was found because it was inconvenient, the judge may not rule in favor of mental distress, either.

I agree any more discussion with the woman should leave a paper trail for evidence.

Good luck with this ugly mess!
 
Thank you all for your kind words. We are keeping our fingers crossed. I came across a link on a small thread that I'd like to share. There's enough newbies, including me, that can learn from this.

http://ramblingredneckmom.blogspot.com/2011/04/how-to-process-chickens-at-home.html
I can't agree with the other o wise ones - document, document, document!!! You can't record unless she knows in advance that you are doing so, which sorta negates the purpose. But you can really help yourselves by making sure everything is crystal clear to any judge. This is ridiculous! As the kennel manager for a big kennel in Chicago I can tell you we had paperwork written up for just such an event. The blanks could be filled in as things occurred and each entry was date stamped with one of those little library type "book due" stamps, then initialed by whoever made the entry. One thing truly in your daughter's favor is that her phone records will show what day and time she called the woman as compared to what day she found it "convenient" to come and get the dog. Doesn't look like she was too worried to me!

I just got back from that link you posted....where was that yesterday????
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Oh, well, there's more to do yet. Mine didn't quite look that "chickeny" when we got done - they looked more like the pheasants we've done. But I could go to the store, buy a whole chicken, bring it home, cut it up for frying, look at those pieces and realize that I'd made such a mess of it that I couldn't even glue it back together to have it look like it did when it came out of the package.
 
Further question for northern flock owners:  How high is your coop from grade level, are you happy with this distance, what have you done to rodent/predator proof the space under your coop, do you allow chickens access under any part of your coop?
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this is my coop it sits about two ft off the ground. its 8'x8' and about 6' tall at the high point in the roof. I can easily walk in it to clean. and it is easy enough to clean underneath with a rake which I don't do very often. I had to crawl under one day to rescue a sickly hen which was a pain but....It gives them a place to hid out of the sun in the summer. I plastic it off in the winter just leaving the one end open to give them a place to be out of the snow in the winter. I use clear plastic so it acts like a sunroom.
I did do the the chicken wire skirt to try to stop the rodents but that didn't work. so far its only been mice chippies and moles. I just keep my fingers crossed but heck I free range so if something is going to get them.....
Oh and I live high atop the Alleghenies Mt. in Pa. so yes its cold here from Oct. to May.
 
Further question for northern flock owners: How high is your coop from grade level, are you happy with this distance, what have you done to rodent/predator proof the space under your coop, do you allow chickens access under any part of your coop?


this is my coop it sits about two ft off the ground. its 8'x8' and about 6' tall at the high point in the roof. I can easily walk in it to clean. and it is easy enough to clean underneath with a rake which I don't do very often. I had to crawl under one day to rescue a sickly hen which was a pain but....It gives them a place to hid out of the sun in the summer. I plastic it off in the winter just leaving the one end open to give them a place to be out of the snow in the winter. I use clear plastic so it acts like a sunroom.
I did do the the chicken wire skirt to try to stop the rodents but that didn't work. so far its only been mice chippies and moles. I just keep my fingers crossed but heck I free range so if something is going to get them.....
Oh and I live high atop the Alleghenies Mt. in Pa. so yes its cold here from Oct. to May.

Nice coop I am not in the northern states but the Desert does get very cold in the winter. Cold and windy I used to buy bales of straw to make a wind break for my critters. its inexpensive and useful in the spring. I made an Igloo for my goats a couple years running Oh my goodness they loved their igloo.

The only thing that will keep mousie critters out is a hardware cloth skirt fastened top and bottom to wood or pipe. Then to keep the diggers out like dogs or foxes make an apron that layes flat on the ground. Yep we have voles too and the only way to keep them out is a dug in skirt or a flat out hardware cloth bottom. Chicken wire is only good for keeping chickens contained.... sorry to say.

When the wind blows here you cant hold a conversation because the house screens scream too loud. My chickens only ever have tarps for cover to keep the wind from knocking the warm air out of their feathers. A coop like yours should be nice and toasty for your chickens as long as there is good ventilation to keep moisture from collecting on the walls and windows.

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4th day, 4th perfect (small, but perfect) egg! I have at least one chicken out there who is grateful for all the time, cash, lost sleep and work involved in raising her!
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That gives me some hope. None of this spring's hatch is laying yet. None of the birds I bought at TSC and Rural King are laying. Still just getting 4 or 5 from my older girls that survived the dog attack. I had to buy store eggs to bake with.
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Madi is still sleeping today. She has shared her double bed with her sister for 2 1/2 weeks and hasn't had a good nights sleep in awhile. Jayla is a bed hog and won't sleep alone. They might be 18 and 15 but in reality they are more like 11 and 15. The younger one couldn't even figure out how to turn the toaster oven off after she made a pizza night before last. We got up to a hot toaster oven and probably another $15 on or electric bill. She didn't realize she could just pull the plug. Today is more normal. Fed the chickens, gathered the few eggs and fed the two heifers. Tried to tempt them with apples and we are getting close to be able to touch them. Any suggestions for keeping the flies down in the pasture without using harsh chemicals? I am worried about their eyes and we can't get close enough yet to put anything on them. Thanks
 
The fact that the vet stated the dog only needed antibiotics and eye drops for 14 days, meaning the dog had a good prognosis; the judge will probably not award the woman money for the value of the dog.

Since she couldn't pick the dog up the day it was found because it was inconvenient, the judge may not rule in favor of mental distress, either.

I agree any more discussion with the woman should leave a paper trail for evidence.

Good luck with this ugly mess!

Thank you so much, the fact is the lady did come that night and pick her up because we said she was doing fine. Clint offered to take the dog to the vet the next day and pay for it. That wasn't good enough so they went that night and finished up the death at 2:30 in the morning. Imagine having children in the room watching her die at that time of night. Yes, it was her decision to have Tinker put down.
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Further question for northern flock owners: How high is your coop from grade level, are you happy with this distance, what have you done to rodent/predator proof the space under your coop, do you allow chickens access under any part of your coop?


this is my coop it sits about two ft off the ground. its 8'x8' and about 6' tall at the high point in the roof. I can easily walk in it to clean. and it is easy enough to clean underneath with a rake which I don't do very often. I had to crawl under one day to rescue a sickly hen which was a pain but....It gives them a place to hid out of the sun in the summer. I plastic it off in the winter just leaving the one end open to give them a place to be out of the snow in the winter. I use clear plastic so it acts like a sunroom.
I did do the the chicken wire skirt to try to stop the rodents but that didn't work. so far its only been mice chippies and moles. I just keep my fingers crossed but heck I free range so if something is going to get them.....
Oh and I live high atop the Alleghenies Mt. in Pa. so yes its cold here from Oct. to May.
Lovely coop. You've got it going on.
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