The Front Porch Swing

[wyoDreamer]

I think they are working on the technology for lining the pipes in private systems, the problem being that those pipes are so small, how to get the liner through it before "inflating"?

When they are working with pipes in the street, they are typically 8" or more in diameter - for relining, usually bigger than 16" I think. It is cost effective to buy the expensive product and not have to remove the pavement, remove the gravel, dig down to the pipe, remove the old pipe, put in new pipe, fill the hole, and build a new roadway on top. Home services are smaller and cheaper projects - just dig up, replace and refill the hole. Level it off and some seed and you are good to go.

 

[perchie.girl]

I think they are working on the technology for lining the pipes in private systems, the problem being that those pipes are so small, how to get the liner through it before "inflating"?

When they are working with pipes in the street, they are typically 8" or more in diameter - for relining, usually bigger than 16" I think. It is cost effective to buy the expensive product and not have to remove the pavement, remove the gravel, dig down to the pipe, remove the old pipe, put in new pipe, fill the hole, and build a new roadway on top. Home services are smaller and cheaper projects - just dig up, replace and refill the hole. Level it off and some seed and you are good to go.

Or better yet dig a hole where you need to attach to good pipe sever the old pipe and do a new trench for the new pipe and leave the old in there....

I am looking to do that IF I can replace my leach field....

you save half the labor by just putting in new in a new location.

deb

 

[wyoDreamer]

@perchie.girl That works for a home system, especially when you are putting in a new drain field in a new location. However, when you are on a city system, you replace where it is so you can reconnect to the pipe at the property line. If you just cut the pipe and run a new line in a new place, they you would have to dig all the way into the street to reconnect to the city main in a new place. Plus you may be required to uncover and then cap the old service.

There are places here in Wisconsin that require you designate the location for a septic AND THE REPLACEMENT SEPTIC before you can subdivide the land. I worked on a subdivision that the city required this and part of the requirement was that BOTH sites had to be perk tested.

For your situation, it may be an easier dig to dig along the existing pipe trench - if you don't have to replace the existing drain field. I believe you have some pretty rocky soils - right? The worst of the rocks will probably have been removed in the existing trench line.

 

[perchie.girl]

@perchie.girl That works for a home system, especially when you are putting in a new drain field in a new location. However, when you are on a city system, you replace where it is so you can reconnect to the pipe at the property line. If you just cut the pipe and run a new line in a new place, they you would have to dig all the way into the street to reconnect to the city main in a new place. Plus you may be required to uncover and then cap the old service.

There are places here in Wisconsin that require you designate the location for a septic AND THE REPLACEMENT SEPTIC before you can subdivide the land. I worked on a subdivision that the city required this and part of the requirement was that BOTH sites had to be perk tested.

For your situation, it may be an easier dig to dig along the existing pipe trench - if you don't have to replace the existing drain field. I believe you have some pretty rocky soils - right? The worst of the rocks will probably have been removed in the existing trench line.

I was thinking more of replacing water lines.... I never heard of septic in the city till I moved to Jacumba... They are on city water but each has its own septic tank.... But I dont think of them as being on septic even now... Each house there is on probably a sixty by sixty lot.

deb

 

[wyoDreamer]

I was a little vague, sorry.
The subdivision was in the county, but it was within 1/2 mile of the city, so the city had some jurisdictional rights to require certain things. I believe that the assumption was that when the septic failed for those houses, the homeowners would petition for annexation to the city and the City didn't want to have to run services out there anytime soon.

 

[Tomtommom]

It all just makes ya wanna dig a latrine

 

[Blooie]

Woke up this morning to almost 2 inches of new, heavy and wet snow! First measurable snowfall since November! We got some snow Christmas Eve but more a skiff than anything and it was gone quickly, and had a flurry or two in January. It's been in the 50s and 60s more often in February and March than I can ever remember, so this is very welcome! The mountains could see 8-10 inches so that eases my mind as far as how dry it was up there.

 

[wyoDreamer]

I hope your mountains get their snow pack, Blooie! I know how critical that is. My sister says there is almost no snow pack in Idaho, but they have been having rain so the reservoirs are full. Hopefully that is enough for them. I would hate to hear that the West was on fire again. You all need a break from the forest fires.

 

[Amberjem]

 

[Blooie]

It's still so overcast that I haven't been able to see the mountains, so I can't tell if they got a layer of white frosting yet or not. I just dread fire season. The snow we woke up to yesterday morning was gone by yesterday afternoon. But it did provide some moisture to the ground. Since the ground isn't frozen, it seeped in slowly and deeply instead of running off.

Amberjem! Great to see you!