The Heritage Rhode Island Red Site

[monnie662]

I do have plywood roof first then put the corrugated roofing on top of the plywood. Maybe that is the difference.We do have some of the worse winds. It has taken then vinyl siding off my house 3-4 times. Mine has never leaked and been on there 2-4 years. I don't put the nails real deep. I used the special nails that is for this roofing. The rubber washers on these nails are pretty think.
We had high 90's and 100 degree weather last year and our humidity is always very high in the summer.
Jim

That could be my problem, mine is nailed to the 2x4s and so the wind can probably make it vibrate some. we have a lot of wind here blows most all the time, but I do like it might have to see if I can repair it somehow with some type of wood bracing. This barn was built when we bought the house so we didn't have a say so in the building but it does have the rubber washers on the nails. Always something to fix around here.

 

[cmom]

Quote: I have a couple of coops made with what I think is similar material. Since these pictures have been taken the runs have been covered.

 

[Fred's Hens]

What do you have holding these eggs an egg carton? And is this a Brinsea? I have trouble keeping my eggs level in my Brinsea have to stuff with paper towel to keep them from falling over.

Incubating/hatching in an egg carton is a common practice. I much prefer them.
The best gauge I have found is the Caliber III. Best I have found and I've tried a lot of them.

 

[SallyinIndiana]

I was just looking at my 2 oldest young roosters. They are starting to finish up their awkward stage. It won't be too long before I have 2 more great looking roosters.
My hens are looking good too.

 

[immyjay54]

I was just looking at my 2 oldest young roosters. They are starting to finish up their awkward stage. It won't be too long before I have 2 more great looking roosters.
My hens are looking good too.

So happy for you and wishing you the best of luck with all of them.

 

[immyjay54]

Opinions !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have been thinking on this for quite a while and would like you folks thoughts on it.

I have three line of Rhode Island Red birds which most n here know. I do belong to the RIRCA and visit their Face Book page quite often. There are so many different opinions on the different birds that folks post pictures of and this is going to be hard to word right but I'm going to try. I know that their are more birds out their that folks have worked with for a long time but I'm only going to talk about the ones that I have.

First, I really don't think that these three lines can be compared 100%. I do know that the SOP applies to all these birds as a whole. I'll start with the Old Reese lines that Bob Blosl had. All the writings that I've read up to the time that Bob had them, they were kept pure. When Bob gave these birds to Brian Simmons, Greg Chamness and Andre St. Romaine these birds were still pure. Now, if you look at just these birds, ( I do have birds that came from Greg through Paul Gingerich and I have birds from Matt that are the half and half that Bob talked about) there are a lot of differences in them. The color is different, tail set is different, egg laying ability is different. This is just a few of the main things that I've seen. Then we go to the Nelson and Underwood lines. To compare these lines to the ones that Bob had, gee, lots of difference. I know that Don said that his birds were not pure and this is written by him and I have it quoted on my site. The only thing I can say about the Underwood's is that a long time back Gary introduced a bantam to get the RC which is in his bio also on my site.
COULD the reason for such a difference be because differently lines have be introduced and is causing the difference in the birds and if so can these differences ever be fixed. I can honestly say that I have my preference for my own reasons and it seems that each one of the lines that I have have good and bad.

In the bio from Gary which is on my site, He says about introducing the Bantam RC into his flock and then worked to get the LF RC. Since Don had breed the different birds and the bantam was introduced into the Underwood's way back, could this be why the have the higher tail sets???

I hope this is clear enough for you folks to understand what I am saying.

Jim

This is what I was saying about the Nelson birds. This was copied pasted from Don's writings that I have in my private stuff.

My line is far from pure,I have an old line base but have added Myers,Underwood,production,Bowers(old related line) to my flock over the last 20 years.I feel by selectively adding different birds that I have improved my Reds significantly over the ones I started with,There were mistakes made and many times took steps backward to move forward.The Reds now are larger in body size,earlier maturing,better and earlier layers,and have great color and feather quality.

 

[bluebirdnanny]

I think you are right on. I don't know if it can be fixed or not. I assume given years of selection and tedious attention.... maybe but there is always a chance of a throw back. Maybe I am wrong. I have not any personal experience, just stating from my understanding of research I have done.

Now I DO have much difficulty anymore retaining things so.... waiting for the other more experienced to weight in on this one. (and correct me if so need be) :/

 

[Fred's Hens]

My experience is with two lines and maybe some insights with a third.

Yes, Jim, you are right. They are quite different, measuring 10 quick things, type, maturity rates, laying, temperament, tail set, breast protrusion (shall we say), horn on legs, color, feather, and head/comb.

To me? Each represents a heritage of breeding to Standard, as those venerable breeders interpreted the Standard. All have been shown with many, many "wins" when judged in meaningful shows.

So? What then? What are we to make of this?

This is what makes this hobby/art/addiction/fancy so dog gone interesting. There are virtues here or there where one line may excel a bit. Do we end up with "favorites"? Perhaps. That too is quite alright by me. They all will continue to need care and work by those who love the Reds. But, most of all, enjoy them as the fabulous birds they are.

 

[immyjay54]

I think you are right on. I don't know if it can be fixed or not. I assume given years of selection and tedious attention.... maybe but there is always a chance of a throw back. Maybe I am wrong. I have not any personal experience, just stating from my understanding of research I have done.

Now I DO have much difficulty anymore retaining things so.... waiting for the other more experienced to weight in on this one. (and correct me if so need be)

Just so I'm clear here. When I said can these differences be fixed, I'm not saying that one is right and one is wrong. Please, don't think I'm talking down on any of these lines. I really do love all my reds. Just wondering what causes so much difference when they are all to be pure reds. lol

 

[immyjay54]

My experience is with two lines and maybe some insights with a third.

Yes, Jim, you are right. They are quite different, measuring 10 quick things, type, maturity rates, laying, temperament, tail set, breast protrusion (shall we say), horn on legs, color, feather, and head/comb.

To me? Each represents a heritage of breeding to Standard, as those venerable breeders interpreted the Standard. All have been shown with many, many "wins" when judged in meaningful shows.

So? What then? What are we to make of this?

This is what makes this hobby/art/addiction/fancy so dog gone interesting. There are virtues here or there where one line may excel a bit. Do we end up with "favorites"? Perhaps. That too is quite alright by me. They all will continue to need care and work by those who love the Reds. But, most of all, enjoy them as the fabulous birds they are.

I think this is a big part of my question. lol
Oh my Fred, I do and will always enjoy my reds. I know for sure that I will make mistakes and only hope I can correct the ones that I make.
Jim