The Heritage Rhode Island Red Site

[Robert Blosl]

Also to New York Reds I am happy to tell you the Grand Champion of the Show Red Bantam Cockerel that you won with in the fall in New York is in a breeding pen with two of my old hens. They have produced some chicks and the little guys have the darkest down color and beak color I have seen on a Red Bantam. I have so far got three chicks out of this trio and they have more eggs in the incubator. Thank you for letting me breed him to my old Mohawk Bantam line. He is the first bird I have crossed into my line in ten years and should give me lots of vigor. The little chicks piped out of their eggs and they made the neatest egg exit I have seen the egg looked like a saw cut the egg open. They run around with such vigor and health as I have ever seen.

Just wanted you to know he is enjoying his winter down here with his cousins.

I hope to breed him back to two of his best pullets next year. Maybe he will produce some more champions in years to come.

bob

 

[Chris09]

OUCH. You could have stopped on the third sentence. No reason to get offensive. Plus this question was for Robert, not everyone.

"202roosterlane''

Bill (NYREDS) was just giving his honest opinion as a APA poultry judge on the bird. If "henpeckedmuch" wanted only Bob to comment on the bird then they should have PM'ed or emailed Bob.


"henpeckedmuch"

Your bid looks to have good head, legs and tail but looks to be a little short in the back, light in surface and under color, pinched in the tail and lacks in the breeds brick shape.


Chris

 

[HallFamilyFarm]

Never ask a question openly you dio not want an honest answer to. Especially on a thread with so many Master Breeders and APA judges!

On another note: A new RIR breeder in Southeast Arkansas. Jimmy K. is a new 4H member and a friend gave up a dozen eggs for Jimmy to get his start. Seven hatched from the Ricky Bates line. To the friend who shared these...THANK YOU!! Jimmy almost cried on the phone last night when I called him and told him his eggs had hatched! He has wanted RIR for years as he listened to his grandfather talk of the "old reds". He told Jimmy these new reds just were not the same.

Youth...the Future of the Fancy!

Quote:

"henpeckedmuch"

Your bid looks to have good head, legs and tail but looks to be a little short in the back, light in surface and under color, pinched in the tail and lacks in the breeds brick shape.


Chris

 

[henpeckedmuch]

Thank you all for your comments including those that seem to be harsh. Without honest opinions I couldn't learn. I always think there is truth in what two or three people say about any one thing. The birds aren't production red's though. They are Duanne Urch / Turnlund birds from Minnisota. I don't think the pictures do them justice. The angle of the sun's reflection makes their dark mohogony color seem lighter. Even their legs in the picture appear to be almost white rather then yellow. The 2nd picture he is walking at an angle and makes his body appear much shorter than reality. That said, he is my first bird and without good honest critics / judges I will not have the ability to better understand what is required to produce the quaility birds I want to. It is the same reason that I'm entering birds in shows, to learn. And yes I've read the standard, but without practical experience it doesn't help much. So, again thank you all. I have 25 chicks of another line of birds from Greg Chamness coming and will keep both lines until I decide on which I like better.

 

[Marans and More]

Hi ,
We reciently aquired a quad and a trio of Heritage RiR's .
We have had and raised chickens for years, but never have had any Heritage birds. I think I would like to post some pics just to get some
Honest feed back on them. I have been told what line that they are from, but would like to hear comments from other folks.

Thanks !

Lee from Ga.

 

[Robert Blosl]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/katz0556/red_l_k.jpg


The Ricky Bates line is a good line and a mystery line to me. The strain was obtained from the St Romain Family in Lousiana after the St Romain young man went off to college. The Romain mother and father came down to my place about 15 years or so ago and got ten young birds and took them home. The boy was a wisard at conditioning and maybe breeding or the gene pool just kept on ticking. Many told me the boy showed males that where out of this world and where some of the best they ever seen. The young Romain as a teen ager beat adult men in open class with his Red Males. The mother told me that my strain died out and they crossed other strains onto my birds which I find hard to understand or figure out. My experience is you dont cross strains and then end up with super star show birds. You normaly destroy a good gene pool when you make crosses onto a old establish line like my old line. However, one day I got a call from Rickey and he told me he was going to send me some pictures of the large fowl the chicks he got out of the from the St Romains birds.. Boy he had two wonderfull long back males that looked like the pictures I have seen the Romain boy win with when he was showing. Rickey then was killed in a accident and a fellow got a trio of this birds and I think 17 of the chicks he was rasing. These eggs may be from this fellow that the four h child got and hatched. I hope this line improves and keeps on ticking. To me these birds have the genes of these two males and its worth trying to get the off spirng from this line to that level. Are these birds my old line I don’t know. I just cant see how crossing a line like this onto a strange line would produce the results that we are seeing now. So many times we here someone say have been rasing these Reds for 20 years and I got one here and one their and that how I got what I have. Just don’t make sense to me. I hope the young 4 H member enjoys his Reds as much as I did when I was his age.

The above link is the pictures he sent me to look at. Look at the lenth of body and brick shape.


here are some U Tube videos of Heritage Rhode Island Reds in Germany.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzWTYP3mMP4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dINcv0Nai1A&feature=related


Look at the beginning and look at this Rose Comb male bird. One of the best Rose Combs I have seen in years. You want to see a rare chicken in the world the Rose Comb Rhode Island Red is about one of the rarest. Just found these Y tube pictures in Germany. bob

 

[lucky123]

Bob, if your talking about the picture of the cockeral that henpeckmuch posted, it doesn't look anything like the ramey line, and there are plenty of pictures posted recently of cockerals and pullets from Gary rameys line. I also see nothing harch about a opinion coming from someone who is a judge. Why are so many people so sentitive about their birds? They should never, and I mean never post pictures and ask for opinions!!!!!

 

[HallFamilyFarm]

I appologize if my comment came across as rudeness. Folks we do need to remember that other posters can not see our faces nor the inflection of our voices.

Never ask a question openly you dio not want an honest answer to. Especially on a thread with so many Master Breeders and APA judges!

On another note: A new RIR breeder in Southeast Arkansas. Jimmy K. is a new 4H member and a friend gave up a dozen eggs for Jimmy to get his start. Seven hatched from the Ricky Bates line. To the friend who shared these...THANK YOU!! Jimmy almost cried on the phone last night when I called him and told him his eggs had hatched! He has wanted RIR for years as he listened to his grandfather talk of the "old reds". He told Jimmy these new reds just were not the same.

Youth...the Future of the Fancy!
Quote:

"henpeckedmuch"

Your bid looks to have good head, legs and tail but looks to be a little short in the back, light in surface and under color, pinched in the tail and lacks in the breeds brick shape.


Chris

 

[NYREDS]

Glad he's doing his job for you Bob. Can't wait to see the results.

Also to New York Reds I am happy to tell you the Grand Champion of the Show Red Bantam Cockerel that you won with in the fall in New York is in a breeding pen with two of my old hens. They have produced some chicks and the little guys have the darkest down color and beak color I have seen on a Red Bantam. I have so far got three chicks out of this trio and they have more eggs in the incubator. Thank you for letting me breed him to my old Mohawk Bantam line. He is the first bird I have crossed into my line in ten years and should give me lots of vigor. The little chicks piped out of their eggs and they made the neatest egg exit I have seen the egg looked like a saw cut the egg open. They run around with such vigor and health as I have ever seen.

Just wanted you to know he is enjoying his winter down here with his cousins.

I hope to breed him back to two of his best pullets next year. Maybe he will produce some more champions in years to come.

bob

 

[NYREDS]

Nothing in either post suggested the question was for Bob only.
I do sometimes forget where I am and assume people who ask for a critique actually want an honest one. Since this is BYC where every bird is beautiful & "SQ" [although that often appears to stand for soup quality] I suppose I should have said he was the best Red I ever saw.