The Natural Chicken Keeping thread - OTs welcome!

Chickens loose weight fast and put on weight fast. Mine are over weight from winter lack of exercise. My ducks are eating and eating getting ready to nest. I can't fill them up. This time of year the poultry is starving for fresh spring greens. I am crack growing many grains for them. I wish that 40 degree would get here. I need that snow gone.

If your birds are lacking in weight and sharp keel bones there is a problem. Having thinner chickens is not a problem..many good egg layers are thin. Look your breed up and see how much they are supposed to weigh and weigh them. If they are supposed to weigh 5lb and they weigh 4..you have problems.

I take a fecal sample into the vets twice a year. I have dogs. I take chicken poo in too. My dogs sometimes eat chicken poo.

This all natural approach is the best way to go and it is for good maintenance. If your chickens are loaded with worms you might have to worm them with strong wormers if you have not been doing natural approach from the beginning. I never recommend using drugs on any animal. However some drugs can save lives. My birds are not loaded because they have been raised the same since day one. Tomorrow they may run across some worm load that was brought in by a neighbors dog or a coon. They are healthy and I rely on that vitality to keep them healthy. If, and that is a big if. i purchased a bird and it had worms. I would use a chemical wormer if the natural approach was not working. I would do this so they would not bring the problem into my flock. I am closing my flock after the delivery of the last of the birds this year. My flock is healthy with no disease and I want to keep it that way.

I picked up a really beautiful trio of Basque that originally came from GFF that I posted pictures of for a friend and they are currently in my garage. If you look at the males head shot you can see obvious signs of rooster damage, and slight frost damage. I thought. It is pox. If I had not had them in my garage..away from my flock my whole flock would be infected. These birds are going home Monday and I am so relieved. They are still in a contamination phase, and the new owner is now aware. Bio security. I always fed them last, and used different shoes. I am so relieved I followed the rules. It has been a stressful week, my Orpingtons were shipped stressed and I took them to the Vets yesterday. They are so much better today. He gave them some sort of vitamin boost for stress.
 
I picked up a really beautiful trio of Basque that originally came from GFF that I posted pictures of for a friend and they are currently in my garage. If you look at the males head shot you can see obvious signs of rooster damage, and slight frost damage. I thought. It is pox. If I had not had them in my garage..away from my flock my whole flock would be infected. These birds are going home Monday and I am so relieved. They are still in a contamination phase, and the new owner is now aware. Bio security. I always fed them last, and used different shoes. I am so relieved I followed the rules. It has been a stressful week, my Orpingtons were shipped stressed and I took them to the Vets yesterday. They are so much better today. He gave them some sort of vitamin boost for stress.

Del - so sorry you're having to deal with another person's sick chickens! No fun... but so relieved you have been practicing good bio security on your property!! What a saving grace!

HUGS!
 
Chickens loose weight fast and put on weight fast. Mine are over weight from winter lack of exercise. My ducks are eating and eating getting ready to nest. I can't fill them up. This time of year the poultry is starving for fresh spring greens. I am crack growing many grains for them. I wish that 40 degree would get here. I need that snow gone.

If your birds are lacking in weight and sharp keel bones there is a problem. Having thinner chickens is not a problem..many good egg layers are thin. Look your breed up and see how much they are supposed to weigh and weigh them. If they are supposed to weigh 5lb and they weigh 4..you have problems.

I take a fecal sample into the vets twice a year. I have dogs. I take chicken poo in too. My dogs sometimes eat chicken poo.

This all natural approach is the best way to go and it is for good maintenance. If your chickens are loaded with worms you might have to worm them with strong wormers if you have not been doing natural approach from the beginning. I never recommend using drugs on any animal. However some drugs can save lives. My birds are not loaded because they have been raised the same since day one. Tomorrow they may run across some worm load that was brought in by a neighbors dog or a coon. They are healthy and I rely on that vitality to keep them healthy. If, and that is a big if. i purchased a bird and it had worms. I would use a chemical wormer if the natural approach was not working. I would do this so they would not bring the problem into my flock. I am closing my flock after the delivery of the last of the birds this year. My flock is healthy with no disease and I want to keep it that way.

I picked up a really beautiful trio of Basque that originally came from GFF that I posted pictures of for a friend and they are currently in my garage. If you look at the males head shot you can see obvious signs of rooster damage, and slight frost damage. I thought. It is pox. If I had not had them in my garage..away from my flock my whole flock would be infected. These birds are going home Monday and I am so relieved. They are still in a contamination phase, and the new owner is now aware. Bio security. I always fed them last, and used different shoes. I am so relieved I followed the rules. It has been a stressful week, my Orpingtons were shipped stressed and I took them to the Vets yesterday. They are so much better today. He gave them some sort of vitamin boost for stress.
I only wish that we had a vet locally to at least test poo, you are so lucky. I have a couple of pictures I just took of the flock enjoying a little sunshine. We've seen so little of it.



There is waiting room only for dusting in my flower pots.

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sally, love the pic of your hens dusting themselves in the flowerpots!

Delisha, I can't believe they have fowl pox. Another reminder for me of why you go to all the trouble of biosecurity with new chickens. I don't even want to think of the possible outcomes there.

Still no sign of the new cat I brought into the house last night. Hidden away good! thought I heard snoring ....but who knows where. she'll come out when she is ready.
 
ok, I feel stupid.
At my feed store, they were clearing out some chicken treats, all made by "farmers helper" - they make "baby cake" for chicks, forage cakes, and they had this product called "ultrakibble" which looked like little greasy pellets, smaller than peas. It has 32 % protein, lots of interesting ingredients like spinach pulp, watercress, tumeric, cinnamon, salmon meal, probiotics, fish meal, with corn gluten meal, sorghum and oil being the first 3 ingredients. I think the normal price for a 28 oz package was like 10 or 12 bucks, but the feed store had it for 2 bucks.

Clerk said no one was buying this "designer chicken stuff" and they were getting rid of the line.

I figured, 2 bucks, high protein.....have some skinny hens, why not?

Well, I'll tell you why not: nothing eats this stuff! Not my chickens, not the birds, not the squirrels. Chickens pick it up, and drop it immediately, and don't come back to it. Ate wet mash, but left behind this stuff, so they probably spit it out. Put some in the bird feeder, left untouched. Poured some out for squirrels and ground feeding birds, nope, nothing doing.

Isn't that the strangest thing?

Anyway, it was only 2 bucks. I tossed it in the compost bin and nothing ate it there, either!


So it you see it, don't waste your $.
I've never had that issue with Farmer's Helper (Resolve Sustainable Solutions) products. Everything I've bought my birds have scarfed down quickly. I've raised Turkey Poults, Guinea Fowl Keets and Silkie Chicks with the Ultra Kibble (for chicks mixed) into their normal starter feed, they all loved it and thrived on it. I also feed the regular Ultra Kibble as a supplement to my Peafowl and my breeding flocks of Guineas, plus I add some to my FF a few times a month.

Just so you know, lol... the person that developed Ultra Kibble is a very knowledgeable and helpful BYC member, and the company is a sponsor of BYC
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I've never had that issue with Farmer's Helper (Resolve Sustainable Solutions) products. Everything I've bought my birds have scarfed down quickly. I've raised Turkey Poults, Guinea Fowl Keets and Silkie Chicks with the Ultra Kibble (for chicks mixed) into their normal starter feed, they all loved it and thrived on it. I also feed the regular Ultra Kibble as a supplement to my Peafowl and my breeding flocks of Guineas, plus I add some to my FF a few times a month.

Just so you know, lol... the person that developed Ultra Kibble is a very knowledgeable and helpful BYC member, and the company is a sponsor of BYC
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interesting! The stuff didn't smell old or rancid, it is just strange that nothing (chickens/birds/squirrels - grey and red/mice/moles)nothing would eat it. Perhaps there was something wrong with this particluar batch. Glad you have had a good experience with it.
 

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