The Natural Chicken Keeping thread - OTs welcome!

[subhanalah]

I have seen first hand where some  GMO test plots are grown nothing will grow sometimes after for years do to the testing just how many chemicals the new strains can handle...I live in seed country central Pioneer bags it seed not 10 miles from my house as do many other seed companies a lot big farms here grow nothing but seed corn for the rest of the country....Native wildlife has dwindled you figure the deer,birds, other small animals eat that seed which is heavily sprayed with poisons and then carry that poison in their system or die from it....there is a lot more to it...It is more what the GMO grain withstands 2 or 3 times the levels of chemicals which then get eaten by animals then we eat the animals , or grain ourselves.....chicken laced with roundup sound yummy to you?

it sounds like a plot to make us chemically dependent on pharmaceuticals to keep us alive.

 

[tjo804]

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GMO ?

I tend to agree with the eating of gmo feed makes Chickens free or not of them. Just as it would for all of us who can read.

Selective breeding for traits ? That is natural and if it is not I believe that would make me and all the people I know GMO's

I am not now and am long selectively bred from being a Purebred! I might say I am a mutt but I don't think a GMO.

 

[Leahs Mom]

You're talking semantics. "Genetically Modified" and "Genetically Engineered" are the terms that are used to refer to inserting genetic material inside the gene of an unlike species.

These terms are NEVER used to refer to practices such as grafting, breeding hybrids, selecting and breeding for certain traits, etc.



Edited to add quotation marks.

 

[RedRidge]

Oh....and my birds have never eaten any spinach when I tried to give it to them. 

Mine will not eat spinach. I love spinach... more than any other greens, but... Since spinach and chard are so high on oxalates I no longer plant them in the garden. Now... If only the guineas would quit eating my cabbage and cauliflower. Chickens are easy to keep out of the garden. Guineas? Not so much.

 

[Leahs Mom]

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I'm the same way. I love spinach too but avoid the oxalates as well. Of course, if you lightly cook it and add a little grated raw cheese it does help that issue some .

Anyhow, I've always thought they wouldn't eat it because of the oxalates. I figured that they must have enough sense to avoid it unless there is something in it that they need at the time. But I read lots of folks that say theirs will eat it.

 

[subhanalah]

You're talking semantics.  "Genetically Modified" and "Genetically Engineered" are the terms that are used to refer to inserting genetic material inside the gene of an unlike species. 

These terms are NEVER used to refer to practices such as grafting, breeding hybrids, selecting and breeding for certain traits, etc. 



Edited to add quotation marks.

isn't that exactly the games politicians play to get away with everything they do, regarding food, medicine and even healthcare?

 

[Leahs Mom]

I'm not sure what you mean. The term Genetic Modification and Genetically engineered have nothing to do with grafting, hybrids and selective breeding.

It is a whole different process. They have never been the same.

 

[RedRidge]

 

Oh....and my birds have never eaten any spinach when I tried to give it to them. 

Mine will not eat spinach. I love spinach... more than any other greens, but... Since spinach and chard are so high on oxalates I no longer plant them in the garden. Now... If only the guineas would quit eating my cabbage and cauliflower. Chickens are easy to keep out of the garden. Guineas? Not so much.

I'm the same way.  I love spinach too but avoid the oxalates as well.  Of course, if you lightly cook it and add a little grated raw cheese it does help that issue some .

Anyhow, I've always thought they wouldn't eat it because of the oxalates.  I figured that they must have enough sense to avoid it unless there is something in it that they need at the time.  But I read lots of folks that say theirs will eat it. 

I really believe that when livestock are given a smorgasbord they eat what they need and what is best for them. Take buttercup for instance... It doesn't take much buttercup to kill a cow but only a very hungry cow on over grazed pasture will eat it. We need to listen to what our livestock is telling us. ;-)

 

[superdeluxe]

What does Natural Chicken keeping mean? No store grain/layer pellets?

 

[Jewelwing]

Why are you sorry?

Well, it didn't have anything to do with chickens (except in the sense that it has to do with every living thing on the planet), and I tend to go on and on about things I care a lot about. So sometimes I go on too long for people who aren't as interested, and it's hard for me to tell when I've hit that point!