The NFC B-Day Chat Thread

I've been watching bird videos and now I really want a bird. But birds are way too loud and messy. But I've been watching some people with macaws and they are absolutely gorgeous. :love

And most of them leave the wings unclipped and do flight training so like for instance, one I've been watching is bonding with the bird and building her confidence and getting her to fly to them like from across the room or a perch a short distance away or whatever. And let me say, they look gorgeous flying. And I've seen big aviaries and huge cages, both indoor and outdoor, and ones that don't even go in the cage, just hang out all day. And birds that free fly off cliffs and stuff. And I would love to have that bond and have a bird to fly to me and stuff like that. But macaws are BIG and very expensive (both initial cost at upkeep), very loud, and very messy, and need a lot of work, attention, and interaction, and time so I probably won't get one. But maybe eventually. But I would like a smaller parrot, maybe an African Grey or conure. But greys are very very good imitators and talkers and can be irritating lol and intelligent so need stuff to do. And conures are very loud and messy. Although from what I understand green cheeks are little bit quieter and pretty cuddly??

I'll probably just end up getting a cockatiel or budgies or parakeets (similar but one's American and skinnier, smaller, and flightier, kinda wanna go to a breeder and get a real English budgie and/or handraised) but cockatiels don't really talk I don't think? And budgies would probably get eaten here lol so probably can't free fly. But I do like the whistling of cockatiels and they can learn cool tunes. And parakeets and budgies are small and cute and pretty cheerful and can learn lots of tricks. But they also chirp and whistle and make bird noises all the time. So I kind of would almost rather have a conure or macaw or something that doesn't scream or be loud a lot but is just loud volume wise. But idk. But the bigger birds are like having a perpetual two year old for 50 years. But they're a lot more cuddly being bigger. More to hold and cuddle lol

But budgies are adorable.

My other thought is having like 4 or more in a large flight cage or outdoor aviary 24/7 or in summer. But the problem with that is they say that if you have more than one then they tend to bond more with each other than with you. But I think it is selfish to only have one and also to keep it in a tiny cage. So I do plan to have at least 2 and a bigger cage. But a group of 4 is so fun to watch interact with each other and play and such. But it's also louder. And might be harder to train, if at all possible. So idk. 4 kind of seems, I think, it's more to just watch and observe and be pretty. Whereas one or two I might be able to train to do tricks. With bigger, possibly more intelligent or complex birds, having one isn't that big of a deal because they can bond really closely with you, their flock, but imo, budgies are much more flock birds. I mean, they fly around Australia in huge flocks. So it seems cruel to me to only have one. But it can be done. But only one bird is also more work cause with a pair or group, they keep each other company.

I would like to eventually get a big aviary though and have like 6 or 8 or even 10 haha but we'll see.

But either way, whether I get 2 or get 4 or more, I think I will get one bird at a time and/or keep the new one separate for a while first so that they bond with me first and then the other birds so that way I can still teach them things or catch them if I need to, etc. Or I might get two at a time so they don't forget how to be a bird.

And if I got a cockatiel, I would get at least a pair.

But birds are a lot of work and I also want gerbils, for which I already have all the stuff, and a bigger fish tank or a pond, plus quail, so this would be a long way off. But I do eventually want to do it. I have a perfect spot in mind. Or if that doesn't work, a second idea.

I just need to know whether they can stay outside year-round or if I would have to bring them inside? Which could easily be done. But it'd be nice for them to have the wing room.

But some say oh you'll kill them if you have them outside full time or colder than 65 degrees F but then on this New England group I'm on, some people do have them outside and someone just recently, like a few months ago, built an outdoor aviary for parakeets and cockatiels. And someone else has finches, which are a lot smaller, out yearround. So I think it can be done, despite what people say. You just have to acclimate them properly and I think have a windproof box/shelter to go in or wall one side or something in winter. But I'm just not entirely sure how to do any of that. And wouldn't want to kill any of them.

But it's also somewhat a lot of work with proper diet and everything but I guess it's not that much work, not anymore than what I should be eating for myself lol, fresh fruits and veggies and sometimes sprouts
 
Also it's my mom's birthday today so we all went out to dinner then had cake here. My parents, both brothers, and my older brother's fiancé. The dinner was kind of for everybody lol: my mom's birthday today, my birthday last weekend, the engagement, and my other brother accepting his new job.

And my brother and his fiancé (this is so long to type, what should/can I type instead????) Took the dog to Ellisville State Park today. It's right before Cape Cod. It's a beach and I think they might have other terrain but idk. But yeah. I think they either went today or maybe yesterday. They went to the vet recently too. I'm micing mixing up the days ha

Anyway, she showed me the pics at the restaurant and I asked her to send me some of them, meaning like 3 or 4 of the best but not wanting to be picky and specify lol, anyway, she sent me a lot. But I am glad because I love Libby pictures.

A couple are that weird moving pic thing Apple has but my phone doesn't have so if it looks like frozen at a stupid angle or blurry or whatever that's why. Like some of the ones of her with the stick or following my brother or on the dune haha but yeah.

Here's one she sent the other day

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And here's the ones she sent today. I think some are a little bit older but they're all fairly recent.

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Also it's my mom's birthday today so we all went out to dinner then had cake here. My parents, both brothers, and my older brother's fiancé. The dinner was kind of for everybody lol: my mom's birthday today, my birthday last weekend, the engagement, and my other brother accepting his new job.

And my brother and his fiancé (this is so long to type, what should/can I type instead????) Took the dog to Ellisville State Park today. It's right before Cape Cod. It's a beach and I think they might have other terrain but idk. But yeah. I think they either went today or maybe yesterday. They went to the vet recently too. I'm micing mixing up the days ha

Anyway, she showed me the pics at the restaurant and I asked her to send me some of them, meaning like 3 or 4 of the best but not wanting to be picky and specify lol, anyway, she sent me a lot. But I am glad because I love Libby pictures.

A couple are that weird moving pic thing Apple has but my phone doesn't have so if it looks like frozen at a stupid angle or blurry or whatever that's why. Like some of the ones of her with the stick or following my brother or on the dune haha but yeah.

Here's one she sent the other day

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And here's the ones she sent today. I think some are a little bit older but they're all fairly recent.

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Cute pics!
 
I've been watching bird videos and now I really want a bird. But birds are way too loud and messy. But I've been watching some people with macaws and they are absolutely gorgeous. :love

And most of them leave the wings unclipped and do flight training so like for instance, one I've been watching is bonding with the bird and building her confidence and getting her to fly to them like from across the room or a perch a short distance away or whatever. And let me say, they look gorgeous flying. And I've seen big aviaries and huge cages, both indoor and outdoor, and ones that don't even go in the cage, just hang out all day. And birds that free fly off cliffs and stuff. And I would love to have that bond and have a bird to fly to me and stuff like that. But macaws are BIG and very expensive (both initial cost at upkeep), very loud, and very messy, and need a lot of work, attention, and interaction, and time so I probably won't get one. But maybe eventually. But I would like a smaller parrot, maybe an African Grey or conure. But greys are very very good imitators and talkers and can be irritating lol and intelligent so need stuff to do. And conures are very loud and messy. Although from what I understand green cheeks are little bit quieter and pretty cuddly??

I'll probably just end up getting a cockatiel or budgies or parakeets (similar but one's American and skinnier, smaller, and flightier, kinda wanna go to a breeder and get a real English budgie and/or handraised) but cockatiels don't really talk I don't think? And budgies would probably get eaten here lol so probably can't free fly. But I do like the whistling of cockatiels and they can learn cool tunes. And parakeets and budgies are small and cute and pretty cheerful and can learn lots of tricks. But they also chirp and whistle and make bird noises all the time. So I kind of would almost rather have a conure or macaw or something that doesn't scream or be loud a lot but is just loud volume wise. But idk. But the bigger birds are like having a perpetual two year old for 50 years. But they're a lot more cuddly being bigger. More to hold and cuddle lol

But budgies are adorable.

My other thought is having like 4 or more in a large flight cage or outdoor aviary 24/7 or in summer. But the problem with that is they say that if you have more than one then they tend to bond more with each other than with you. But I think it is selfish to only have one and also to keep it in a tiny cage. So I do plan to have at least 2 and a bigger cage. But a group of 4 is so fun to watch interact with each other and play and such. But it's also louder. And might be harder to train, if at all possible. So idk. 4 kind of seems, I think, it's more to just watch and observe and be pretty. Whereas one or two I might be able to train to do tricks. With bigger, possibly more intelligent or complex birds, having one isn't that big of a deal because they can bond really closely with you, their flock, but imo, budgies are much more flock birds. I mean, they fly around Australia in huge flocks. So it seems cruel to me to only have one. But it can be done. But only one bird is also more work cause with a pair or group, they keep each other company.

I would like to eventually get a big aviary though and have like 6 or 8 or even 10 haha but we'll see.

But either way, whether I get 2 or get 4 or more, I think I will get one bird at a time and/or keep the new one separate for a while first so that they bond with me first and then the other birds so that way I can still teach them things or catch them if I need to, etc. Or I might get two at a time so they don't forget how to be a bird.

And if I got a cockatiel, I would get at least a pair.

But birds are a lot of work and I also want gerbils, for which I already have all the stuff, and a bigger fish tank or a pond, plus quail, so this would be a long way off. But I do eventually want to do it. I have a perfect spot in mind. Or if that doesn't work, a second idea.

I just need to know whether they can stay outside year-round or if I would have to bring them inside? Which could easily be done. But it'd be nice for them to have the wing room.

But some say oh you'll kill them if you have them outside full time or colder than 65 degrees F but then on this New England group I'm on, some people do have them outside and someone just recently, like a few months ago, built an outdoor aviary for parakeets and cockatiels. And someone else has finches, which are a lot smaller, out yearround. So I think it can be done, despite what people say. You just have to acclimate them properly and I think have a windproof box/shelter to go in or wall one side or something in winter. But I'm just not entirely sure how to do any of that. And wouldn't want to kill any of them.

But it's also somewhat a lot of work with proper diet and everything but I guess it's not that much work, not anymore than what I should be eating for myself lol, fresh fruits and veggies and sometimes sprouts
Loud, messy, and a lot of work. Demand attention or get bored and destructive. Be careful what you wish for!
 
Cute pics!

Thanks!

Loud, messy, and a lot of work. Demand attention or get bored and destructive. Be careful what you wish for!

Yeah, like having a perpetual 2 year old for 50 years haha

Which is part of why I don't want one and know I couldn't handle one, at least right now. No time to give them a good home.

But watching all the videos, I'm like damn birds are beautiful haha


Looks delicious!!
 

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