The NFC B-Day Chat Thread

[ShrekDawg]

I rarely was able to alfalfa in TN any way, but it seems to me that it is not good for them to have much of it... male goats that ism

Yeah, I think you're right. I don't think it's because of the protein though. I think it has something to do with the higher calcium and it possibly causing stones?

 

[CntryBoy777]

Well @bruceha2000 ya could start cutting in the fall for the following year and cut the tree into the right sized pcs and then allow it to season in place and after winter thaw ya could haul some over to the barn and split and stack it for the coming winter....that would give ya all summer to get it moved and split at your leisure.
@KDOGG331 naw, alfalfa is fine for male goats, both wethers and bucks....it is the amount of grain that has to be limited because of urinary calculi. The % of calcium has to be 2x the amount of phospherous, because most of the calculi are phospherous based. Male goats can live healthy lives and a 50/50 diet of hay and alfalfa. The only alfalfa that is available here in this "Neck of the Woods" is in pellet form. I have meat goats and an alfalfa/oat pellet is all they get in the way of grain....

 

[ShrekDawg]

Well @bruceha2000 ya could start cutting in the fall for the following year and cut the tree into the right sized pcs and then allow it to season in place and after winter thaw ya could haul some over to the barn and split and stack it for the coming winter....that would give ya all summer to get it moved and split at your leisure.
@KDOGG331 naw, alfalfa is fine for male goats, both wethers and bucks....it is the amount of grain that has to be limited because of urinary calculi. The % of calcium has to be 2x the amount of phospherous, because most of the calculi are phospherous based. Male goats can live healthy lives and a 50/50 diet of hay and alfalfa. The only alfalfa that is available here in this "Neck of the Woods" is in pellet form. I have meat goats and an alfalfa/oat pellet is all they get in the way of grain....

Thanks for the info! That's helpful and makes sense

I'm not sure there's too much alfalfa here anyway but it's helpful to know they can have it if I did get it

 

[ronott1]

Doggone it DD! I read your post and then got sidetracked into spending the next 30-45 minutes on Zazzle They do have quite a bit of chicken type stuff (I think the coffee mugs are where I got lost).

I did not click on the link do I did not have to get side tracked...

I hate when that happens. Does zazzle have kitchen goodies?

 

[CntryBoy777]

@CapricornFarm how many and what kind of goats ya planning on getting?

 

[CapricornFarm]

@CapricornFarm how many and what kind of goats ya planning on getting?

I am getting 6 Nigerian dwarf does! Spotted ones only, i love a spotted goat!

 

[CntryBoy777]

I'm sure ya will enjoy them, will ya be milking them?...or just as pets?....they are really neat little things, but they certainly have their own ways.....we really enjoy ours, they are pygmy and pygmy /boer crosses....thinking about adding some kikos or kiko/boer crosses come Spring.....

 

[CapricornFarm]

I'm sure ya will enjoy them, will ya be milking them?...or just as pets?....they are really neat little things, but they certainly have their own ways.....we really enjoy ours, they are pygmy and pygmy /boer crosses....thinking about adding some kikos or kiko/boer crosses come Spring.....

I will milk them and feed the kids, they make wonderful tame goats! I would go with Kikos, great goats. Had one that took me for a ride one day!

 

[bruceha2000]

Well @bruceha2000 ya could start cutting in the fall for the following year and cut the tree into the right sized pcs and then allow it to season in place and after winter thaw ya could haul some over to the barn and split and stack it for the coming winter....that would give ya all summer to get it moved and split at your leisure.

Can you explain one of those words, l-e-i-s-u-r-e?? And it would have to be split pretty early, it needs to air dry all summer.

I have this great dream, suggested by a post I saw on a tractor forum a couple of years ago. Stackable cord wood storage units that can be moved with pallet forks on a tractor. Split the wood and put it in the units, move to the drying area. When you need a new unit up at the house in the winter, motor it over. The guy had actually built a "cargo bay" door into his house right by his stove and placed the units there as needed. Open a door on the inside, take out the wood, stick it in the stove, close the door. He had an outside enclosure for the units attached to the house. He hand stacked the split wood only once, picked it up only twice.

I currently have to stack it in the little barn, then move it as needed with the dump cart to the enclosed porch and stack it. I pick up each piece of wood 4 times before it makes it into the house, 5-6 into the stove, stack it twice, 3 times if you count the small loads put by the stove. Though that isn't QUITE accurate, I can get a cord on the porch so I have him dump some in front of the porch, the rest in front of the little barn. For those that don't burn wood, a cord of hardwood weighs about 1 ton.

I figure I could get close, the enclosed porch has 2 entrances and the only thing we use one of them for in the winter is to bring more wood from the little barn up to the racks in the porch (to be restacked). I could build a platform in front of that door and place the units there.

Of course I lack a few things. Like a real tractor. And the welding skills to make the stackable units. I suppose they could be made with wood.

Is that cheap? It seems like it is for delivery and everything.

I think so, I'm sure people who live in the bigger cities * pay quite a bit more if only for the delivery. Not a big deal for him to deliver it not much more than 1/2 mile down the road. He bought a dump trailer a couple of years ago that can hold 4-5 runs (1 1/3 - 1 2/3 cords, I get 4 cords).

* A term which I sure some of you would at given the biggest city in Vermont is about 42K people. The second biggest is the city next to it at 19K people, geographically they are a city of 51K people. That wouldn't even be considered a city in some states. The 3rd largest is ~17K and from there none is over 10K.

 

[CapricornFarm]

Can you explain one of those words, l-e-i-s-u-r-e?? And it would have to be split pretty early, it needs to air dry all summer.

I have this great dream, suggested by a post I saw on a tractor forum a couple of years ago. Stackable cord wood storage units that can be moved with pallet forks on a tractor. Split the wood and put it in the units, move to the drying area. When you need a new unit up at the house in the winter, motor it over. The guy had actually built a "cargo bay" door into his house right by his stove and placed the units there as needed. Open a door on the inside, take out the wood, stick it in the stove, close the door. He had an outside enclosure for the units attached to the house. He hand stacked the split wood only once, picked it up only twice.

I currently have to stack it in the little barn, then move it as needed with the dump cart to the enclosed porch and stack it. I pick up each piece of wood 4 times before it makes it into the house, 5-6 into the stove, stack it twice, 3 times if you count the small loads put by the stove. Though that isn't QUITE accurate, I can get a cord on the porch so I have him dump some in front of the porch, the rest in front of the little barn. For those that don't burn wood, a cord of hardwood weighs about 1 ton.

I figure I could get close, the enclosed porch has 2 entrances and the only thing we use one of them for in the winter is to bring more wood from the little barn up to the racks in the porch (to be restacked). I could build a platform in front of that door and place the units there.

Of course I lack a few things. Like a real tractor. And the welding skills to make the stackable units. I suppose they could be made with wood.


I think so, I'm sure people who live in the bigger cities * pay quite a bit more if only for the delivery. Not a big deal for him to deliver it not much more than 1/2 mile down the road. He bought a dump trailer a couple of years ago that can hold 4-5 runs (1 1/3 - 1 2/3 cords, I get 4 cords).

* A term which I sure some of you would at given the biggest city in Vermont is about 42K people. The second biggest is the city next to it at 19K people, geographically they are a city of 51K people. That wouldn't even be considered a city in some states. The 3rd largest is ~17K and from there none is over 10K.

Couldn't you build sides on a pallet? That is how hubby stores ours. Then he covers with tarps if it is going to rain.