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Gardening question---

Looking for a reputable source to find the last frost dates for my region. In the past years the zone has changed according to some sites, but not others. WOuld like to use a reliable source. Suggestions??

also-- running into data for 32 , 28 and 24 degrees??? huh?

Won't your county agricultural extension office be able to help you with that? I used to call the community Ag leader with all sorts of questions. He was a great help to me.
 
Chickadoodles, can't you leave your DH at home to care for the animals, etc. It would be cheaper for one person to travel and you'd probably enjoy it more without a 'chaperone.'

On the other hand the thought of gentle sedation and amnesia is sounding awfully good.
 
Chickadoodles, can't you leave your DH at home to care for the animals, etc. It would be cheaper for one person to travel and you'd probably enjoy it more without a 'chaperone.'

On the other hand the thought of gentle sedation and amnesia is sounding awfully good.
Diva we are still newly weds we really like going places together. lol And I am doing better but I still give out pretty easily and need help after a bit. And he is so much help to me, I just don't know if I could go anywhere without him.
 
Wisher and Oz I will plan on going next year. Count me in (and DH he just doesn't know it yet)!
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Ron, we get frozen fog here often in the winter and it can be very pretty on the trees and fences.
Hagar, SCG and I did Bryce and Zion last year. We didn't get a chance to do the Subway but did do Angel's Landing. This year we are plotting our attack on Coyote Buttes. We have permits for the 5th of May. Can't wait to wander around there!
SCG - reconsider Cockscomb


I also heard about some of the ideas CVS has and I think they are great ideas.
For anyone wanting to raise turkeys with your chickens, if you do not have blackhead in your area they should be fine. I mustn't have it in our area because I have raised my turkeys with my chickens for the last three years and they are housed together. In fact, Jake has decided he is in absolute love with a black brahma mix hen I have. He coos at her like a dove. She will hang around with him so the roosters don't bother her. I just hope he doesn't try to mate her because he is huge compared to her size.
 
I would love to go...idk if DH would. He said he would never fly!
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It would be a blast though!

I remember my mother saying she wanted to go to Europe but she wouldn't fly and was terrified of boats so she said she would wait till there was a means to evaporate and reappear elsewhere, kinda like 'beam me up Scotty'. Needless to say she never went anywhere abroad.

Gardening question---

Looking for a reputable source to find the last frost dates for my region. In the past years the zone has changed according to some sites, but not others. WOuld like to use a reliable source. Suggestions??

also-- running into data for 32 , 28 and 24 degrees??? huh?
The hardiness zone maps are a suggestion based on historical data of the last killing frost but cannot predict future events. They're merely intended to be a guide for timing of starting seeds indoors and to watch for fruit flowering.
Some suggest our last killing frost for my area is April 7 others say it is the 15th. Most of the last 10 years or so, it has been early to mid March. If I had treated those guides as gospel, I would have missed planting early enough a lot of the time. I just know that a frost is possible in the middle of April but probably won't happen so I go by long range forecasts, plant early, yet still have cloches and row covers ready.

Wisher and Oz I will plan on going next year. Count me in (and DH he just doesn't know it yet)!
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I just don't know what I'd do with 8 flocks of chickens during a trip to the other side of the planet.
 
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Since this is the Old Folks Home, I thought I'd share what a friend sent me this morning.

I remember each one of these.

Older than dirt.
Someone asked the other day, 'What was your favorite fast food when you were growing up?'
'We didn't have fast food when I was growing up,' I informed him. 'All the food was slow.'
'C'mon, seriously. Where did you eat?'
'It was a place called 'at home,' I explained. ! 'Mum cooked every day and when Dad got home from work, we sat down together at the dining room table, and if I didn't like what she put on my plate I was allowed to sit there until I did like it.'
By this time, the kid was laughing so hard I was afraid he was going to suffer serious internal damage, so I didn't tell him the part about how I had to have permission to leave the table.
Here are some other things I would have told him about my childhood if I figured his system could have handled it :
Some parents NEVER owned their own house, wore Levis, set foot on a golf course, traveled out of the country or had a credit card..
My parents never drove me to school. I had a bicycle that weighed probably 50 pounds, and only had one speed, (slow).
We didn't have a television in our house until I was 10. It was, of course, black and white, and the station went off the air at midnight, after playing the national anthem and a poem about God. It came back on the air at about 6 a.m. and there was usually a locally produced news and farm show on, featuring local people...
I never had a telephone in my room. The only phone was on a party line. Before you could dial, you had to listen and make sure some people you didn't know weren't already using the line.
Pizzas were not delivered to our home.... But milk was.
All newspapers were delivered by boys and all boys delivered newspapers --my brother delivered a newspaper, six days a week. He had to get up at 6AM every morning. Movie stars kissed with their mouths shut. At least, they did in the movies. There were no movie ratings because all movies were responsibly produced for everyone to enjoy viewing, without profanity or violence or most anything offensive.
If you grew up in a generation before there was fast food, you may want to share some of these memories with your children or grandchildren. Just don't blame me if they bust a gut laughing. Growing up isn't what it used to be, is it?
MEMORIES: My Dad is cleaning out my grandmother's house (she died in December) and he brought me an old Royal Crown Cola bottle. In the bottle top was a stopper with a bunch of holes in it.. I knew immediately what it was, but my daughter had no idea. She thought they had tried to make it a salt shaker or something. I knew it as the bottle that sat on the end of the ironing board to 'sprinkle' clothes with because we didn't have steam irons. Man, I am old.
How many do you remember?
Head lights dimmer switches on the floor.
Ignition switches on the dashboard.
Pant leg clips for bicycles without chain guards.
Soldering irons you heat on a gas burner.
Using hand signals for cars without turn signals.
Older Than Dirt Quiz : Count all the ones that you remember not the ones you were told about - Ratings at the bottom.
1.Candy cigarettes
2.Coffee shops with tableside juke boxes
3.Home milk delivery in glass bottles
4. Party lines on the telephone
5.Newsreels before the movie
6.TV test patterns that came on at night after the last show and were there until TV shows started again in the morning. (there were only 3 channels [if you were fortunate])
7.Peashooters
8. Howdy Doody
9. 45 RPM records
10.Hi-fi's
11. Metal ice trays with lever
12. Blue flashbulb
13.Cork popguns
14. Studebakers
15. Wash tub wringers If you remembered 0-3 = You're still young If you remembered 3-6 = You are getting older If you remembered 7-10 = Don't tell your age, If you remembered 11-15 =You're older than dirt! I might be older than dirt but those memories are some of the best parts of my life. Don't forget to pass this along!! Especially to all your really OLD friends.

I've seen these lists before. Wouldn't you know it, got a 15.
 
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Since this is the Old Folks Home, I thought I'd share what a friend sent me this morning.

I remember each one of these.

Older than dirt.
Someone asked the other day, 'What was your favorite fast food when you were growing up?'
'We didn't have fast food when I was growing up,' I informed him. 'All the food was slow.'
'C'mon, seriously. Where did you eat?'
'It was a place called 'at home,' I explained. ! 'Mum cooked every day and when Dad got home from work, we sat down together at the dining room table, and if I didn't like what she put on my plate I was allowed to sit there until I did like it.'
By this time, the kid was laughing so hard I was afraid he was going to suffer serious internal damage, so I didn't tell him the part about how I had to have permission to leave the table.
Here are some other things I would have told him about my childhood if I figured his system could have handled it :
Some parents NEVER owned their own house, wore Levis, set foot on a golf course, traveled out of the country or had a credit card..
My parents never drove me to school. I had a bicycle that weighed probably 50 pounds, and only had one speed, (slow).
We didn't have a television in our house until I was 10. It was, of course, black and white, and the station went off the air at midnight, after playing the national anthem and a poem about God. It came back on the air at about 6 a.m. and there was usually a locally produced news and farm show on, featuring local people...
I never had a telephone in my room. The only phone was on a party line. Before you could dial, you had to listen and make sure some people you didn't know weren't already using the line.
Pizzas were not delivered to our home.... But milk was.
All newspapers were delivered by boys and all boys delivered newspapers --my brother delivered a newspaper, six days a week. He had to get up at 6AM every morning. Movie stars kissed with their mouths shut. At least, they did in the movies. There were no movie ratings because all movies were responsibly produced for everyone to enjoy viewing, without profanity or violence or most anything offensive.
If you grew up in a generation before there was fast food, you may want to share some of these memories with your children or grandchildren. Just don't blame me if they bust a gut laughing. Growing up isn't what it used to be, is it?
MEMORIES: My Dad is cleaning out my grandmother's house (she died in December) and he brought me an old Royal Crown Cola bottle. In the bottle top was a stopper with a bunch of holes in it.. I knew immediately what it was, but my daughter had no idea. She thought they had tried to make it a salt shaker or something. I knew it as the bottle that sat on the end of the ironing board to 'sprinkle' clothes with because we didn't have steam irons. Man, I am old.
How many do you remember?
Head lights dimmer switches on the floor.
Ignition switches on the dashboard.
Pant leg clips for bicycles without chain guards.
Soldering irons you heat on a gas burner.
Using hand signals for cars without turn signals.
Older Than Dirt Quiz : Count all the ones that you remember not the ones you were told about - Ratings at the bottom.
1.Candy cigarettes
2.Coffee shops with tableside juke boxes
3.Home milk delivery in glass bottles
4. Party lines on the telephone
5.Newsreels before the movie
6.TV test patterns that came on at night after the last show and were there until TV shows started again in the morning. (there were only 3 channels [if you were fortunate]) 7.Peashooters
8. Howdy Doody
9. 45 RPM records
10.Hi-fi's
11. Metal ice trays with lever
12. Blue flashbulb
13.Cork popguns
14. Studebakers
15. Wash tub wringers If you remembered 0-3 = You're still young If you remembered 3-6 = You are getting older If you remembered 7-10 = Don't tell your age, If you remembered 11-15 =You're older than dirt! I might be older than dirt but those memories are some of the best parts of my life. Don't forget to pass this along!! Especially to all your really OLD friends.

I knew it. I got an 11 ... and a half because I can't remember whether I ever actually saw a newsreel before a movie ... which I think makes me eligible for at last a half on that one.

Something I will never understand is why our society considers any indication of age, particularly in women, something to be ashamed of, hide, and whenever possible, surgically "correct." I earned the grey hair and wrinkles, dadgum it, and I have zero desire to hide them. I figure they are awards for staying alive!
 
Since this is the Old Folks Home, I thought I'd share what a friend sent me this morning.

I remember each one of these.

Older than dirt.
Someone asked the other day, 'What was your favorite fast food when you were growing up?'
'We didn't have fast food when I was growing up,' I informed him. 'All the food was slow.'
'C'mon, seriously. Where did you eat?'
'It was a place called 'at home,' I explained. ! 'Mum cooked every day and when Dad got home from work, we sat down together at the dining room table, and if I didn't like what she put on my plate I was allowed to sit there until I did like it.'
By this time, the kid was laughing so hard I was afraid he was going to suffer serious internal damage, so I didn't tell him the part about how I had to have permission to leave the table.
Here are some other things I would have told him about my childhood if I figured his system could have handled it :
Some parents NEVER owned their own house, wore Levis, set foot on a golf course, traveled out of the country or had a credit card..
My parents never drove me to school. I had a bicycle that weighed probably 50 pounds, and only had one speed, (slow).
We didn't have a television in our house until I was 10. It was, of course, black and white, and the station went off the air at midnight, after playing the national anthem and a poem about God. It came back on the air at about 6 a.m. and there was usually a locally produced news and farm show on, featuring local people...
I never had a telephone in my room. The only phone was on a party line. Before you could dial, you had to listen and make sure some people you didn't know weren't already using the line.
Pizzas were not delivered to our home.... But milk was.
All newspapers were delivered by boys and all boys delivered newspapers --my brother delivered a newspaper, six days a week. He had to get up at 6AM every morning. Movie stars kissed with their mouths shut. At least, they did in the movies. There were no movie ratings because all movies were responsibly produced for everyone to enjoy viewing, without profanity or violence or most anything offensive.
If you grew up in a generation before there was fast food, you may want to share some of these memories with your children or grandchildren. Just don't blame me if they bust a gut laughing. Growing up isn't what it used to be, is it?
MEMORIES: My Dad is cleaning out my grandmother's house (she died in December) and he brought me an old Royal Crown Cola bottle. In the bottle top was a stopper with a bunch of holes in it.. I knew immediately what it was, but my daughter had no idea. She thought they had tried to make it a salt shaker or something. I knew it as the bottle that sat on the end of the ironing board to 'sprinkle' clothes with because we didn't have steam irons. Man, I am old.
How many do you remember?
Head lights dimmer switches on the floor.
Ignition switches on the dashboard.
Pant leg clips for bicycles without chain guards.
Soldering irons you heat on a gas burner.
Using hand signals for cars without turn signals.
Older Than Dirt Quiz : Count all the ones that you remember not the ones you were told about - Ratings at the bottom.
1.Candy cigarettes
2.Coffee shops with tableside juke boxes
3.Home milk delivery in glass bottles
4. Party lines on the telephone
5.Newsreels before the movie
6.TV test patterns that came on at night after the last show and were there until TV shows started again in the morning. (there were only 3 channels [if you were fortunate]) 7.Peashooters
8. Howdy Doody
9. 45 RPM records
10.Hi-fi's
11. Metal ice trays with lever
12. Blue flashbulb
13.Cork popguns
14. Studebakers
15. Wash tub wringers If you remembered 0-3 = You're still young If you remembered 3-6 = You are getting older If you remembered 7-10 = Don't tell your age, If you remembered 11-15 =You're older than dirt! I might be older than dirt but those memories are some of the best parts of my life. Don't forget to pass this along!! Especially to all your really OLD friends.
Oh man chicken canoe....we must have grown up in the same family!!! Except, we were 3 girls, no boys.


1. Candy cigarettes- in fake cig boxes.

2. Coffee shops-actually existed and were like diner-ettes. Serving coffee, breakfast goods and most diner grill foods, many by the bus stops, no music.

3. Cigarette vending machines on every corner...anybody could purchase them.

4. Don't remember milk deliveries at homes in the 60's Kansas City Mo.

5. Party lines- and telephone numbers with alphabet prefixes indicating the neighborhood. Ours was "WE1-9013. Everyone on the block was on the party line.

6. Only went to 2 movies in my childhood. King Kong and Sound of Music. That was it.

7. Neighborhood schools. Elementary usually K-6. Middle 7-8. HS 9-12. We walked to school. NO buses back then. I think my dad drove my oldest sister to HS, then he went off to work. I think.

8. TV-consisted of black and white, one set, 3.5 channels, antenna. On at 6am, off at midnight. We had the 3 local stations and one PBS, which signal was spotty most times.

9. Did have Howdy Doody...very often. We didn't get alot of shows on our stations back then. Kansas City was kind of boonie-ville back in the 60's.

10. LP records-mom and dad had the turntable and their collection of LP33 and 45's. Remember the good 'ol days? 50's Christmas music, funky christmas tree, Burl Ives, etc....

11. We didn't have a hi-fi.

12. Metal ice cube trays, glass tea pitcher with brewed tea, sugar bowl with real sugar granules, sugar cubes with tiny icing picture thingy's on them.

13. The pop bottle sprinkle thing on mamas ironing board. Usually a Coke Bottle. I got to keep her board, and I think I have the sprinkle top somewheres.

14. Grandmas antique treadle Singer sewing machine...which she used all the time and I learned to sew on.

15. Did have Studebakers..not sure what dad drove. Mom didn't drive, grandmas didn't drive. The ladies used taxis, buses, walked, or stayed home. Mom did ironing jobs, babysitting jobs, elder care jobs, house cleaning jobs.

16. The old wringer tub in the basement. I remember it, because when mom got the new fangled automatic washing machine, I was about 4 or 5 I think. I remember seeing mom and grandma use the wringer one, and it's wooden ringer on the top. It was drained into the basement drain.

17. Fast food-wasn't called fast food back then. Dad liked to go to Zestos Ice Cream once in a while. Mom loved Woolworths luncheonette, and Dad would take us to this place upthe road called "Sandy's" I think. A pic of a Scottish girl dancing was on their sign. But that was a very rare occasion.

18. Neighborhood drug store- Katz and many others. One could go inside and shop for hours. All the neat stuff inside. I miss those places.

Am I old yet?
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