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[bamadude]

How much do u guys sell laying hens for? I am thinking of selling my mutt brahmas

 

[dsqard]

I still feel like I'm 14 most days and then I look in the mirror and wonder what the heck happened.

I can neither confirm nor deny that you would stoop to the level of "fart" jokes

 

[ozexpat]

I still feel like I'm 14 most days and then I look in the mirror and wonder what the heck happened.

I turned 52 yesterday

If I lay perfectly still in a bed with a nice thick memory foam matress, I feel 14 too.

Then I move and get thrown back into reality.

 

[hennible]

I am glad you got it sorted. I think you are still over doing it.

I read a lot of stuff here about "fancying" up your feeds. I am a big believer in probiotics but always get concerned about diet balance.

Higher protein than recommended is both a waste of money and not healthy

Many animals 'SWITCH" to eat is serum protein levels. If you give them too high a protein diet, they dont get enough calorie because they wont eat enough. They starve. The decrease in intake means less carbs, trace nutrients, vitamins, minerals as well because most feeds' additives are based on the labeled protein concentration and designed for the bird meant to eat it.

Millions and millions and millions of chickens do best on 15-16% protein.

Studies show no improvement in egg laying, egg size, chick hatchability and chick survivabilty when you go over 16% protein in layers and a significant drop in all metrics at 18%.

These are long term feed numbers, not protein bumps for molting.

Nitrogen metabolized by the nody is excreted as urea. That urea is the stink in chicken poop.

There is no benefit in boosting protein long term, only harm.

There is a great thesis from south africa on it

http://ul.netd.ac.za/bitstream/10386/558/2/Mohlala A M.Sc (Thesis).pdf

once you get to the graphed results, its very telling.

Holy cow..84 pages, I will read it... It will take awhile

How much do u guys sell laying hens for? I am thinking of selling my mutt brahmas

I have seen mutts range from $7 -$20 here

 

[hennible]

Oh wait make that $5 and up

 

[chickadoodles]

Quote: I appreciate you explaining this to me Oz. Now I have two breeds of chickens the the breeders were feeding them 20%. Buckeye and Chantecler and then my turkey they need higher protein also. What would you suggest? The layer hens are now just getting grower at 18%.

 

[ozexpat]

I feed the following

28% poults, keets and quail chicks
23% chicks <6 weeks, the above 6-12 weeks
21% chicks 6-12 weeks, poults and keets 12-18 weeks
18% adult quail and any of the above until 18 weeks
15.5% with high lysine breeders, adult birds except quail.

I give free choice calcium.

During molt I up to 18%.

I put 1/2 a gallon of coconut vinegar in 55gallons of water once a week.

Chicks get vitamins and minerals with probiotics in their water. The 2.09 a bag stuff from Jeffers. Any stressed birds get them too.

 

[chickadoodles]

Alright Oz I just discussed this with my DH and we have to buy feed tomorrow and we will get the grower/finisher which the protein is 15%. Thank you so much for your help and time.

 

[perchie.girl]

With Regard to feed.... I fed flock raiser to the Guineas once they were grown same for the chickens.. Then oyster shell free choice.

though I did feed catfish pellets free choice in a little dish.... I tried mixing it at ten percent.... It was alot of work...


My reasoning was chickens and Guineas when they free range eat alot of "critters" So the cat fish pellets were forage replacement.

deb

 

[chickisoup]

Hi Chickwhispers!

Glad to see you've come over to the dark, um grey, side!!!!

Alaskan!!!! what is this when I was a child stuff??? I have shelf full of sealing, aka canning, wax! Use it every year for my jellies so I can use my antique jelly jars. I use the reproduction jars for the ones I plan to give as gifts unless I am fortunate enough to come across a great deal on a few extra antiques at a sale.