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[hennible]

Wormwood is also a hallucinogen in humans in the right amounts... It's what makes absinthe so great.

 

[ChickenCanoe]

Well then perhaps I won't get any wormer for my birds, there's no actual evidence that they have worms that I have found, instead I'll just buy them a bunch of garlic...
What do you guys use for coccidiosis? The vet assistant said something about Sulfa or sulfur drugs...

In colder climates wormers are less necessary. In warm moist climates, people may have better cause to worm on a schedule.
There's a huge Asian/Hispanic grocery near here that has great prices on fresh produce and fish. They package garlic cloves after they've cleaned them for a great price. When I want to introduce garlic, I smash a couple cloves and put them in their gallon waterers.

For coccidiosis, I keep a bottle of Corid but only used it once. I think the drug in Canada is called Sulfamet and has to be gotten from a vet.

To prevent coccidiosis, I keep chicks bedding bone dry and feeders full. They get a small hit of coccidia outside and become immune.

 

[ChickenCanoe]

Wormwood is also a hallucinogen in humans in the right amounts... It's what makes absinthe so great.

You sound fun.

ETA

Did I just say that?

 

[bamadude]

Wormwood is also a hallucinogen in humans in the right amounts... It's what makes absinthe so great.

u need a guinea pig?

 

[hennible]

In colder climates wormers are less necessary. In warm moist climates, people may have better cause to worm on a schedule.
There's a huge Asian/Hispanic grocery near here that has great prices on fresh produce and fish. They package garlic cloves after they've cleaned them for a great price. When I want to introduce garlic, I smash a couple cloves and put them in their gallon waterers.

For coccidiosis, I keep a bottle of Corid but only used it once. I think the drug in Canada is called Sulfamet and has to be gotten from a vet.

To prevent coccidiosis, I keep chicks bedding bone dry and feeders full. They get a small hit of coccidia outside and become immune.

Thank you very much... I had coccidiosis in two adults in the last three years I just want to have something on hand in case. As for the worms, I definitely live in a cold climate... I will give him some garlic just incase.
Any thoughts on treating favus? I have been using the Nystatin cream on the five affected chickens combs 2 to 3 times a day I have also put a AVC in the water and a little colloidal silver which supposedly helps with fungus... Iodine has been mentioned to treat this as well....

 

[ChickenCanoe]

I have no experience. All I know about favus is that birds usually recover without treatment. You can speed it up with what you're doing, anti-fungals or mange meds.

Prevention is better nutrition and sanitation. I know you said you had low humidity but it may not hurt to put (and accurate) hygrometer in the coop to see what you have in there.

It is contagious so continuing the anti-fungal treatment and a thorough cleaning should help.

 

[Alaskan]

Thanks for the oyster shell explanation..... I always assumed it stayed grit like for a few days before passing on.


There are MANY people who use corrid at the drop of a hat.

I don't have many issues, since I am where it is cold -duh- i do have some periods of lots of wet, enough that I had to watch the horse hooves for thrush..... So I suppose that means it is also a prime environment for coccidiosis.

Anyway, I want to try to breed for birds that are hardy enough to withstand anything. So, I don't want to treat for anything.

I have had a few birds die of disease, but never half or more of my flock. i keep reminding myself, that if that happens to me, that I want to ride it out, not treat.

I am careful about biosecurity though. I do NOT want a super scary nasty.

 

[vehve]

I'm with Alaskan here, I have a vet at home, but we would still not treat with meds - wound care is okay, if it doesn't require antibiotics, and I don't have a problem with treating against mites or other creepy crawlies, but otherwise I will cull any birds that would need medication. Haven't needed to do that yet though. With cocci, I believe in the low level contamination too. Our two Sussexes were a bit under the weather for a while, it took some time for their poop to become normal, but after a few weeks, they were fine.

Alaskan, compare oyster shell and gravel in a mortar, and you'll get an idea about what happens to it.

 

[ChickenCanoe]

It annoys me when feed store personnel or others use the moniker 'oyster shell grit'. They're two different things.

Did I ever tell anyone that many things annoy me?

On another note:
We're girding our loins for when the St. Louis county grand jury doesn't have indictments in the aftermath of Ferguson unrest.

 

[ChickenCanoe]

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Anyway, I want to try to breed for birds that are hardy enough to withstand anything. So, I don't want to treat for anything.

I have had a few birds die of disease, but never half or more of my flock.

i keep reminding myself, that if that happens to me, that I want to ride it out, not treat.

I am careful about biosecurity though. I do NOT want a super scary nasty.

Same here.
There's a great quote I found in 'The Chicken Health Handbook' citing Fred P. Jeffrey, a retired professor of poultry science and author of 'Chicken Diseases'.

He advocates the rigid culling of all snifflers, droopers, feather rufflers, poor eaters and pale-headed birds to be sure they don't reproduce their kind.