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[Wisher1000]

SCG - I know you can't give Acetaminophen to dogs, I assumed you couldn't give them ibuprofen either. Then I assumed it went for chickens, too. I was under the impression that you had to use aspirin.

 

[vehve]

For dogs I thought pretty much the only human anti-inflammatory pain med that could be used was ketoprofen, but what do I know. We usually have some rimadyl or metacam lying around, and then some heavier stuff if needed.

 

[casportpony]

Somewhere between 4 to 6 inches of snow so far. It's supposed to snow until 10 am.



The chick is still alive, standing, but only on one leg. Not really peeping, which is good, I think. I went to the feed store after work and asked about what they had in pain medications. I was trying to make it simple because what I really wanted was a "non steroidal anti inflammatory drug" (aka NSAID) but I figured I'd just ask after the generic topic of pain meds and then find what I wanted.

He tried to sell me penicillin.



I died a little inside. I realize not everyone is a pharmacist, but if you sell it you should know the general category it falls into.

They didn't have any NSAID so I'll be mixing up an ibuprofen cocktail for the chick in a few.


Chick and I also have a date tonight to either watch a movie or read a book, depending on whether s/he can sleep through the movie or not. I'm in love with this stupid chick and I hope it doesn't die.

Not positive, but I don't think ibuprofen is used in birds. This this lists most avian medicines and their doses. http://avianmedicine.net/content/uploads/2013/03/09_therapeutic_agents.pdf

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

And this one:
http://avianmedicine.net/content/uploads/2013/03/18.pdf

-Kathy

 

[superchemicalgirl]

Advanced Drug Delivery Reviews 54 (2002) 795–803
Drug administration to poultry
B. Vermeulen , P. De Backer , J.P. Remon

In Fig. 2, a mean ibuprofen aministration of 80 mg ibuprofen per kg body weight to 6-week-old broiler via drinking water during 3 days. Each sampling point is a mean of 10 different animals. In both figures, a large variability of drug plasma concentrations can be observed, mainly due
to a difference in individual uptake of drinking water. Chickens consuming high energy diets require less water.




Bioavailability and pharmacokinetics of ibuprofen in the broiler chicken
Journal of Veterinary Pharmacology and TherapeuticsVolume 19, Issue 3, Article first published online: 17 APR 2008
The intravenous, intramuscular and oral pharmacokinetics of ibuprofen in
broiler chickens were investigated.This is a preliminary study, examining the
use of ibuprofen in broiler chickens, and should be followed by tissue residue
and efficacy studies in different disease states.

 

[superchemicalgirl]

Kathy, your first link produces a couple meds that end in -profen.

Same drug class as ibuprofen.

 

[casportpony]

Not sure I'd do it It's not listed as being used in Plumb's Veterinary Drug Handbook either, but meloxicam and aspirin are.

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

Kathy, your first link produces a couple meds that end in -profen.

Same drug class as ibuprofen.

I know, but as much as I like giving drugs, lol, the thought of giving one that's not listed in the books I have scares me. Is ibuprofen used in dogs or cats?

-Kathy

 

[chickisoup]

I had an avian vet (online) tell me once that liquid baby aspirin for an adult chicken was ok. I would be VERY careful with Ibruprofen. Very very easy to overdose and you are dealing with something pretty tiny. Do you have any nutridrench on hand? That would help the chicky feel better and give it a shot of several things it's little body needs. I've had the stuff work almost like magic bringing back chicks I thought for sure stood no chance. That is one that is never allowed to run out in my poultry first aid kit.
Hope all goes well

 

[superchemicalgirl]

Not sure I'd do it

It's not listed as being used in Plumb's Veterinary Drug Handbook either, but meloxicam and aspirin are.

-Kathy

You're welcome to do whatever makes you comfortable.

I'm not telling you what to do, rather where I got my information from. I posted a while back about why I wouldn't use aspirin (it hydrolyzes in water to a very irritating salicylate). Since my feed store didn't have anything I do not have legal access to any other NSAID besides the human OTC ones so I looked for primary literature about them being used in poultry.