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[pennyJo1960]

going to start baking again pie dough, bread then sourdough bread on list today hotdogs and mac tonight comfort food but oh well

 

[CapricornFarm]

I suggested hot dogs and smores for supper but DH said we are out of hot dogs. Oh well, smores for supper! We have to clear out this type of brush and clean up the leaves in order to burn the pile.

 

[superchemicalgirl]

I read about what they contain and how ineffective they are. I am passing on flu shots this year.

I just don't want mercury, and studies were done showing low effectiveness of the vaccine in prevention. Besides i am not exposed to many people and no kids in school. I have enough exposure to toxic chemicals.

If all that's stopping you is the mercury, ask for/get a prefilled syringe. It is one dose, preservative free (also latex free). The only vaccines that contain a tiny amount of thimerosal are the multi dose vials.

 

[pennyJo1960]

@ronott1 is correct no mercury to twist about.. would love a one shot allergy free for a year I sneeze my brains out, cannot do the nasal bad reaction bloody noses from them clariton aka loratadine and benadryl are the only that give a modicum of relief

 

[Kusanar]

Thats when you could still buy Creosote....Nasty Carcenogenic stuff...
Never did understand people that used old motor oil... either...

deb

We keep a 55 gallon barrel about 1/2 full of used motor oil and soak our wood posts in it before driving into the ground. We bury the oil soaked end, it keeps them from rotting and keeps the bugs from chewing them up.

 

[superchemicalgirl]

Now that's an idea worth having.
We soaked the new poop board in beeswax and oil this year - worked great for a few months. I'm thinking motor oil next time.

 

[pennyJo1960]

used motor oil was used extensively in years past

 

[Latestarter]

soap box vent time:

Spoiler: chemicals/creosote

Used oil was also sprayed extensively on dirt roads to keep dust down. Creosote is still available (in some less liberal <read free-er> states). Some states restrict its sale to licensed contractors and others with permits. Virtually all wood power poles are soaked in creosote and they last in the ground for many decades (unless taken out by a vehicle or storm). You can still drive country roads out west and see telegraph poles that were planted in the late 1800s & early 1900s.

Additionally, railroad ties are also soaked in creosote. They also last for multiple decades and even after being replaced by the railroad, last another decade or two used in landscape applications, and that without re-treating them. Creosote, like any other chemical is a useful tool and minimally dangerous when used/applied properly.

You can talk about the modern preservatives used in pressure treated lumber, and how good and safe they are, but they don't hold a candle to creosote... if they did, they would be used by power & rail companies on power poles and railroad ties. The average life of current pressure treated lumber out in the weather/outdoor applications is 10-20 years max, and that with yearly maintenance. How many times have you seen the power company doing maintenance on their power poles or the railroad retreating their rail ties? right then...

 

[pennyJo1960]

@Latestarter know how it has been done but agree do not use it here or pretreated post of any nature

 

[CapricornFarm]

soap box vent time:

Spoiler: chemicals/creosote

Used oil was also sprayed extensively on dirt roads to keep dust down. Creosote is still available (in some less liberal <read free-er> states). Some states restrict its sale to licensed contractors and others with permits. Virtually all wood power poles are soaked in creosote and they last in the ground for many decades (unless taken out by a vehicle or storm). You can still drive country roads out west and see telegraph poles that were planted in the late 1800s & early 1900s.

Additionally, railroad ties are also soaked in creosote. They also last for multiple decades and even after being replaced by the railroad, last another decade or two used in landscape applications, and that without re-treating them. Creosote, like any other chemical is a useful tool and minimally dangerous when used/applied properly.

You can talk about the modern preservatives used in pressure treated lumber, and how good and safe they are, but they don't hold a candle to creosote... if they did, they would be used by power & rail companies on power poles and railroad ties. The average life of current pressure treated lumber out in the weather/outdoor applications is 10-20 years max, and that with yearly maintenance. How many times have you seen the power company doing maintenance on their power poles or the railroad retreating their rail ties? right then...

I am sure no one has done a study on creosote or oil 's effect on people but i don't want any dumped on my property.