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[insanity]

Now, see, I haven't seen any "private" jokes yet. Everything alluded to has happened right here on this thread. Granted, it's become a long thread, but it's all right out there on a very public forum, so how can the jokes be private?

As for wind farms - they've been in the news a lot, for many years. I don't know that anybody thinks they are the answer to the meaning of life, but everything I've seen said has been said by somebody with an ax to grind, and having no actual experience with them, I have no idea what is true, and what just propaganda. Feeling that I really know nothing, I say just that - nothing.

I have noticed that an awful lot of people want to impose them on someone else, but scream, "not in my backyard!" when someone wants to build near them.

That's why alot end up in low population areas. When your whole state has less people then some major cities you don't stand a chance.At least most of Wy knows their voice doesn't matter, The wolf introduction taught us that.

 

[gryeyes]

Now, see, I haven't seen any "private" jokes yet. Everything alluded to has happened right here on this thread. Granted, it's become a long thread, but it's all right out there on a very public forum, so how can the jokes be private? 

As for wind farms - they've been in the news a lot, for many years. <B>I don't know that anybody thinks they are the answer to the meaning of life, </b>

Of course not - the answer to the meaning of life is 42.

 

[insanity]

 

[Bunnylady]

There's a movement afoot to put some up offshore (the Wright bros. chose Kitty Hawk for a reason!). Of course, everyone is yelling about killing seabirds, and spoiling the view (the tourist trade is a large part of our economy, of course). We have a coal-fired power plant near here, also a nuclear power plant; each of those have their problems. No simple answers, I'm sure if we tried to save energy by going "off the grid," my kids would suffer terminal withdrawal from being deprived of the internet!



Linda, I can't remember how long it's been since I saw "the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy," but you are right, the answer is 42.

 

[cknnewbie]

I lived in Wyoming and loved seeing the windmills. As others have said, there are pros & cons to everything. Someone will take exception to the use of coal, water, solar, bio fuels, wind: every solution that is presented has an adversary out there. Living right next to a wind farm? I would choose not to for the same reason I choose not to live near electrical substations. I knew some people in Wyoming who didn't like the sound and others who weren't bothered by it. The birds? They will learn and adapt as they always do. They are, after all, smarter than the average human. My own overall feeling toward wind power is more favorable than not.

 

[chickensnewtome]

I have been away for several days and just read of the passing of your mom. I am so very sorry.

Thank you so much. She picked a very memorable day and decided to go on September 11th. Thats just like her.

I missed this somehow. Don't know if I overlooked it or maybe it was before I came on this this thread. Either way, I am truly sorry for your loss. Cancer is a terrible thing. I watched my grandmother and grandfather both die with it. My dad now has skin cancer, but due to watching what his parents went through, he wants no intervention whatsoever. It is sad. I wish it on no one ever. Your mother is now healthy and perfect in every way possible. I pray that comfort and peace surround you and your family during this time. The pain will never go away, just become easier to live with. Prayers, my friend.

Thank you so much!

Sorry didn't mean to skip this-- guess I did. Sorry.

I'm all for increasing the use of non-oil sources of energy. We are mor invested with foreign oil now than the 1970's oil embargo. I use some solar here on the farm and I am investigating more uses.

Every source has it's pros and cons. THere is a plan to put a large wind farm off the coast of Mass and step by step the development is a go. My biggest concern is what the electricity in such a large dose does to the local populations of animals that have moved and migrated by the magnetic pull of the earth. I don't know a whole lot but I would prefer to produce my own electricity right here on the farm for use on the farm and avoid the damage to the natural world which I hghly value.

We aren't all jokesters all the time. We do tackle the tough things in life, and often with tears, and at times with laughter and smiles. THe silliness I value because it make the difficulties of life tolerable. If you go back you will find a bit of an arguement over . . well not so important. WE bring many perspectives to the thread.

Stay with us, and you will get the private jokes.

Make sure you join in on the TUrkey hatch a thon for 2014!!! Some of us nuts met way back then. . . . .. and MANY many more have joined in since. You ARE welcome here. Sorry I missed your post. I have an old computer and can miss a whole page.

I come to this thread specifically for the sillieness. When I am having a sad moment or thinking about my mom, I come on here just for the laugh and smile I know I will find. We are like a crazy family!

I am sorry.

If I do not know anything about a subject (rare mind you, lol) I do not comment. I prefer to give out reliable info.

I am happy to engage in verbal (or typed) intercourse on almost any other subject.

I guess I better brush up on wind technology. After all...............

I am sure you are oz!

I lived in Wyoming and loved seeing the windmills. As others have said, there are pros & cons to everything. Someone will take exception to the use of coal, water, solar, bio fuels, wind: every solution that is presented has an adversary out there. Living right next to a wind farm? I would choose not to for the same reason I choose not to live near electrical substations. I knew some people in Wyoming who didn't like the sound and others who weren't bothered by it. The birds? They will learn and adapt as they always do. They are, after all, smarter than the average human. My own overall feeling toward wind power is more favorable than not.

I also like the look of them. Very majestic in my opinion. I offer no intelligent comment to the subject so I don't talk....in fear of looking stupid! lol

I can say this for this group, I am only 25 and have learned so much in the short term of being on here that I could be classified as an old fart......HAHAHAHA!

 

[ozexpat]

Now I'm getting far from the original question of electricity, and although people have been saying this for decades, I don't know how much more of humans the Earth can take. I still think it's many decades off but we're barreling closer to unsustainability every day. In a petri dish the amount of bacteria multiples exponentially until the petri dish has not enough food resources and too much waste build up and the environment can no longer support that many bacteria and many die. I, like many of you, contribute to the excessive consumerism and waste on the planet. It makes me shameful and I do my best to personally reduce when I can. I know I can do more, and I'm afraid as a planet that we won't until it's too late.

Now where's the emoticon getting off their soapbox?

<<++ Climbs Slowly Up The Stairs To The Podium++>>

There is nothing like an exercise of living in a different culture.

Here are the average electricity rates and consumption in the USA

State Number of Consumers Average Monthly Consumption (kWh) Price (Cents per Kilowatthour) Monthly Bill (Dollar and cents)
New England 6,189,701 639 15.89 $101.60
Middle Atlantic 15,694,783 719 15.80 $113.60
East North Central 19,559,825 816 11.79 $96.26
West North Central 9,057,982 978 10.12 $98.91
South Atlantic 25,864,527 1,142 11.19 $127.75
East South Central 8,030,901 1,272 10.14 $128.97
West South Central 14,596,165 1,261 10.42 $131.42
Mountain 8,983,640 879 10.56 $92.87
Pacific Contiguous 17,474,162 688 12.43 $85.48
Alaska 273,855 649 17.62 $114.42
Hawaii 417,531 585 34.68 $202.72
U.S. Total 126,143,072 940 11.72 $110.14


Average monthly consumption in a residential home in the USA is 940KW

Thats a boatload of power.

To give it scale - In the Philippines when our place is skeleton. (Bernie, Analou and Dave) without brooders or incubators we use about 60KW. Thats 8 lights (CFL 12Watts) on 12 hours a day and a small fridge and freezer. Add me, my wife, 2 kids, nannies, power tools, incubators, AC and hot water and we use 350 KW. A 60 KW bill is $18. A 375 KW bill is $110.

You will note that we pay the same amount as the average US home but get 40% of the watts.

We conserve. There is not one light on that does not need to be. All lights are CFL that are very frugal but we are replacing with LED that cut consumption a futther 50%. We have a small fridge so we dont pay to keep 3 week old chinese food up the back of the fridge cool. We have a small chest freezer that is locked to prevent opening unless you have to. We have point of use instant hot water over the showers only. Out brooders use 40 watt lights, off at 2 week during the day and 3 weeks at night.

Its easy when you are forced to.

 

[insanity]

I really don't mind the turbines.I don't like how the "powers that be" just do whatever they like and the public gets no say.Also I think if we get stuck with making a resource for other parts of the country the public should at least get something out of it.I know the power companies and state officials do but not the common man. 1 local dam could supply everyone in 200 miles for free, easily with extra to sell off but we still pay national average prices.A little grease for the squeaky wheels.

OK I'll be good now. No more ranting.

 

[superchemicalgirl]

Of course not - the answer to the meaning of life is 42.

<<++ Climbs Slowly Up The Stairs To The Podium++>>

There is nothing like an exercise of living in a different culture.

Here are the average electricity rates and consumption in the USA

State Number of Consumers Average Monthly Consumption (kWh) Price (Cents per Kilowatthour) Monthly Bill (Dollar and cents)
New England 6,189,701 639 15.89 $101.60
Middle Atlantic 15,694,783 719 15.80 $113.60
East North Central 19,559,825 816 11.79 $96.26
West North Central 9,057,982 978 10.12 $98.91
South Atlantic 25,864,527 1,142 11.19 $127.75
East South Central 8,030,901 1,272 10.14 $128.97
West South Central 14,596,165 1,261 10.42 $131.42
Mountain 8,983,640 879 10.56 $92.87
Pacific Contiguous 17,474,162 688 12.43 $85.48
Alaska 273,855 649 17.62 $114.42
Hawaii 417,531 585 34.68 $202.72
U.S. Total 126,143,072 940 11.72 $110.14


Average monthly consumption in a residential home in the USA is 940KW

Thats a boatload of power.

To give it scale - In the Philippines when our place is skeleton. (Bernie, Analou and Dave) without brooders or incubators we use about 60KW. Thats 8 lights (CFL 12Watts) on 12 hours a day and a small fridge and freezer. Add me, my wife, 2 kids, nannies, power tools, incubators, AC and hot water and we use 350 KW. A 60 KW bill is $18. A 375 KW bill is $110.

You will note that we pay the same amount as the average US home but get 40% of the watts.

We conserve. There is not one light on that does not need to be. All lights are CFL that are very frugal but we are replacing with LED that cut consumption a futther 50%. We have a small fridge so we dont pay to keep 3 week old chinese food up the back of the fridge cool. We have a small chest freezer that is locked to prevent opening unless you have to. We have point of use instant hot water over the showers only. Out brooders use 40 watt lights, off at 2 week during the day and 3 weeks at night.

Its easy when you are forced to.

You can get up on the podium at any time.

I wonder if new england KWH is so low because the majority of us use oil to heat and don't have central air?

 

[drumstick diva]

Linda re: 42 I HATE that show - Big Bang something I think it's all called. But I was tricked into watching because I wanted to see THE Dome immediately following.- (it's okay if you call that show dorky.) Bang was running late again so I had to watch to find out when it ended.

I actually saw the whole (ick) episode so know all about 42. Incidentally my sister & her family love Big Bang= so that makes up for me hating it a whole lot.