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[superchemicalgirl]

could be the feet... they get wet and stay wet?

The deal with Silkies and cold is they dont handle getting wet in cold weather... Or at least I was told that... Show girls would be no different... Did you find that the Showgirls came in or stayed in when it rained?

I had two Silky roos they had a plastic dog house in the coop just for them because they couldnt roost with the rest of the chickens. when it rained Ho boy they were in there peeking out when I came to feed. Their dog house was under a table so i could keep their food and water out of the elements.

deb

My showgirl is out in most weather, including downpours. She's not normal, though, and watches us through the windows and screams at me to come get her and take her to bed. I would not judge normal showgirl/silkie behavior on her.

During the awards ceremony it would not stop gobbling. Everytime it gobbled all the kids would bust out laughing. It was funny

Admit it, you were laughing, too. Our toms talk back here, too. It's really funny. I was on the phone the other day trying to get a service call (they called back while I was in the run doing chores) and the turkeys wouldn't stop gobbling after I'd say something. The lady on the other end couldn't hold it together.

Poultry is as bad as crack. After further research i now want turkeys, ducks, and a few geese

I absolutely love my turkeys, dumb and sweet as they are. I love the big soulful eyes. And the stupid ways they try to kill themselves. I love my duckies, too, although they are a giant pain during the winter with the frozen water and icy ground from their mess. They are delicious, but yes, much harder to kill. They are very personable. And delicious. Did I mention delicious?

 

[hennible]

How does it work?
Oregano contains chemicals that might help reduce cough and spasms. Oregano also might help digestion by increasing bile flow and fighting against some bacteria, viruses, fungi, intestinal worms, and other parasites.
Also from webMD... Lol
Of course emphasis on the "might"

 

[ChickenCanoe]

Oregano oil may be the next DE

Oregano leaf is LIKELY SAFE when taken in the amounts found in food andPOSSIBLY SAFE when taken by mouth or applied to the skin in medicinal amounts.
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Anything that claims to treat both varicose veins and ring worms sounds like a snake oil.

I love the smell of my hands when I pick oregano, basil and tarragon. I also love spaghetti or even pizza with fresh oregano.

Snake oil is hard to come by, I can't squeeze them hard enough.

CC, it's extremely likely have parasite, yes. They eat mice, are exposed to cat and dog crap in the yard, and graze on compost some of the time... It's not obvious any one has worms but highly likely.... My vet really didn't have any knowledge. For some reason the clinic is H bent on selling me piprazine.... Which is for round worms, I read it in their order book myself... Agh I'll see what I can get online, or research alternative wormers listed early in the thread.

Well join the crowd. They likely all have some parasite load but no reason to react of freak out.

When they want to sell you the piprazine, ask to see the fecal sample float test that shows a heavy load of roundworms.

My caution is to not react to the unknown.

I am not against worms..... I guess that shows my age.


Worms are not a problem, it is the KIND of worms, and the NUMBER of worms that can be a problem.

So true. If an animal is challenged, the worms can get a stronger hold.

Worms have been around forever and chickens have thrived long before anthelmintics.

 

[Amberjem]

 

[ChickenCanoe]

I have not had cocci

I have had Coryza, Newcastle Disease and a couple of unknown viruses.

i do add amprolium at a very low dose - 1 tbsp / 26kg to my chick recipe for the first 6 weeks to make medicated chick feed

Tell us more about your experience with Newcastle.
I'm guessing it's Exotic Newcastle. Do you know the strain? Beach's or Doyle's?
Does it seem like the native fowl are immune or resistant?
It seems like your property is loaded with it. It's my understanding that vaccinated birds are carriers so does that mean you'll have to vaccinate forever?

 

[ChickenCanoe]

What?

Does that mean you have chicks hatching?

 

[Bunnylady]

I am not against worms..... I guess that shows my age.


Worms are not a problem, it is the KIND of worms, and the NUMBER of worms that can be a problem.

There have been studies done on horses and goats that have shown that in an "average" herd, 80% of the worms will be found in about 20% of the animals. About 20% of the herd will have few if any worms. Some animals are naturally resistant to parasites; choosing their offspring as replacement animals can result in a herd that is virtually worm-free after a while. A healthy animal can tolerate a few worms and still be healthy; the trick is to determine at what level the parasites begin to negatively impact the animal's health. By only worming the animals that have a serious parasite load, you don't expose the entire worm population to the wormer. Hopefully, some of the worms that are in the animals that don't get wormed still carry the genes that leave them reative to the wormer; in this way, it is hoped that one can delay the time when the wormer becomes ineffective because the worms have become resistant to it.

 

[ChickenCanoe]

Very interesting take Bunny.

 

[Amberjem]

I wish CC but no was speaking with someone who had hatched some eggs on the phone and needed to rehome some of them

 

[perchie.girl]

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Also they have found that when you run horses with cattle the worm loads for both are reduced.. Because each have parasites that are specific to the animal.

Foals get a load of round worms typically at about six months..... In an animal that is roebust and resistant that worm load will be gone by the time they are a year. This is horses out on forage only no supplemental feeding.

What happens is the horses are drawn to certain plants that they normally wouldnt eat. Taste maybe but not really eat a lot of.... A few of those herbs have found their way to human herbal medicine as well. Dont ask me which... I am not an expert.

So resistance as well as a natural affinity to self medicate combine to make a heard healthy and hearty... The ones who dont fit that bill are lost to predation and illness.

That being said we are responsible for our flocks and herds because we raise them up to defy nature.... or to fit our needs... So in horses we see weak hooves and hard keepers or super easy keepers (keeper is defined by how efficient they are to feed) and its our responsibility for making them that way.

For instance Bots are nasty little worms about the size of a mans thumb They fly around laying eggs on the horses hair on the legs. The tickle prompts the horse to scratch with their teeth,.... So the life cycle is promoted. Yet here in Southern California Bot flies are almost non existant through the use of feed through Wormers... Strongid feed through wormer

• For the prevention of Strongylus vulgaris larval infestation in horses
• For control of the following parasites in horses: Large Strongyles (adults), Small Strongyles (adults and 4th stage larvae), Cyathostomum spp., Cylicocyclus spp., Cylicostephanus spp., Pinworms, and Ascarids.

Active Drug Ingredients:
Pyrantel Tartrate – 2.11%

http://www.statelinetack.com/wormers/daily-feed-through/1615/



By the way Stateline Tack also has fecal test kits.

This one is for dogs cats and birds.... you buy the kit and the test is paid for you send in a sample and they give you the results
http://www.statelinetack.com/item/fecal-worm-testhome-kit/E013362/

now I know the effectivitivy of a feed through wormer but dont know the resistance rates of the parasites.... lectures from the wormer companys say no resistance... Yah right like I would completely believe them.... While I want to I just dont know.

deb