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[Beer can]

[COLOR=333333] Eurythmics.  I had no idee MM even sang it.  But I don't listen to him anyways.

Lol, I used to listen to all sorts of stuff, only bluegrass and classic country now. The radio in the car is on talk radio unless my 16yr old daughter is riding/driving now its on yucky girly pop stuff.

 

[IttyBiddyRedHen]

My 27 yr old daughter loves MM. But hey. Whatever. She can listen to what ever she wants....she lives in KS....I live in SC.

I like world music, and of course Annie Lennox, and some zydeco-Beau Jocque comes to mind. Stevie Ray Vaughan, some opera, some Tibetan music, buddhist chants...... and on...

 

[chickadoodles]

I had started a few seeds in the house and it warmed up so I put them outside. Along came a squirrel and helped it's self to my tomatoes that I grew from the seeds I got from Bama Dude!

 

[perchie.girl]

I want to have a sensible, non heated discussion about GMO and our sensible group should be able to handle it

questions

Are you anti-GMO?

whether yes or no, why?

instead of genetically modifying crops to be insect resistant, what do you think we should do to decrease pesticide use/

First of all GMO is out of the bag and in the Earth Ecosystem... With regard to vegetables. Even if we stopped using it tomorrow...

There is a place in Biomed for Genetically Modified Organisms. Just look at human Insulin...

But the deal is you re-invent an organism like corn or tomatoes that is resistant to what ever pests are out there... Whether you use GMO or insecticides... The pest will adapt. then you have to reinvent Again.

Same goes for disease resistant germs.

When we were hunter gatherers we ate what was available. sometimes we didn't eat at all. Its bad to become dependent on a single food.

So... I eat GMO. I eat whats available. If I could garden I would grow heritage because they don't take special polinization and it would be like preserving heratige breed chickens. I dont buy into the whole "its bad for you" mantra. Any thing done in excess is bad for you.

deb

 

[tntchix]

I read it twice before I read "Who sang along", guess I'm slow Lol!

OMG! You 'all listen to Marilyn Manson!!!

It's a great version of that song.

LMAO! Marilyn Manson? And here I went to the Eurythmics

I want to have a sensible, non heated discussion about GMO and our sensible group should be able to handle it

questions

Are you anti-GMO?

whether yes or no, why?

instead of genetically modifying crops to be insect resistant, what do you think we should do to decrease pesticide use/

OK. I am "anti-GMO" although the term bothers me immensely. I try not to be against anything and instead find the pro for it. My biggest argument is this:

that we as consumers do not get the choice if we want our food modified except to not purchase it after it has gone to market
the story that they did this to feed the hungry is inaccurate - it didn't really help
they will not tell us what is in our food - they shelled out $$$ in opposition of labeling
the revolving door between big agriculture companies and the government in charge of oversight
i worry pesticide 'drift' has already become a bigger contaminant than the actual GMO



Instead we should growing our own food, saving seeds, sharing knowledge about farming techniques that work/don't work and to stop depending on mass producers to save the world

Hope you all have been well! Can you guys and gals take a look at this thread?
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/961881/informal-survey-what-do-you-feed-and-why

Really could use some input from this group.

-Kathy

done

 

[Beer can]

I want to have a sensible, non heated discussion about GMO and our sensible group should be able to handle it

questions

Are you anti-GMO?

whether yes or no, why?

instead of genetically modifying crops to be insect resistant, what do you think we should do to decrease pesticide use/

I saw it and will post later today because my answer may not be short. I have a lot of things going on right now.

I think the jury is still out on the potential problems that could arise from mixing genetics of different species.
That said, I'm anti-GMO, primarily because it think it is leading us toward the end of seed saving and genetic diversity of heirloom vegatables and field crops.

I appreciate what large scale production has done to feed an ever growing urban population.
Intercropping and crop rotation can help a lot over monoculture crops.

Organic and non-gmo hasn't given us vegetables in the store cheaper than we can grow them if you count our labor. Or whole chicken on sale for .89 cents a pound, or loaves of bread for under a dollar (if you like the mushy white bread). Hybrids and GMO are helping feed the world.
At the same time I am anti-gmo. And have gotten away from hybrids in my garden which for the last few years has been organic. I want to be able to save my seeds and have them grow the same or better the next year, you can't do that with hybrids. Take Monsanto and their soybeans, there is virtually no non-hybrid non-gmo heritage soybean fields left in the US. Their GMO plants have bred with any adjacent fields and farmers that washed and saved their own seeds for generations now get sued and shut down if their seeds have any monsanto genetics in them, they must buy, are forced to buy all seeds from monsanto. I personally think GMO could be the downfall of our food supply. The same reason I'm raising our own chickens right now, heritage breeds. Genetic diversity and preserving heritage breeds of fruits vegetables and livestock has become very important to me.

 

[Beer can]

Instead we should growing our own food, saving seeds, sharing knowledge about farming techniques that work/don't work and to stop depending on mass producers to save the world

 

[Beer can]

I don't look forward to a world where there is only two breeds of chickens one for meat and one for eggs, one breed of cattle, one of pig, etc..And only one breed of each hybrid GMO plant . That scares me. I understand the appeal, it would be the 'smart' thing to do but as a human civilization we have been proven that sometimes the smarter, more efficient cheaper means to advance have not always turned out good results in the long run. Just my opinion.

Edited because my 'smart phone' thought I meant bread, not breed, Lol!

 

[Puddin Fluff]

Cute and somewhat disturbing a the same time.

spouse made lunch.... I was good I tell you, I grabbed a plate and filled it up


I took two or three big fork fulls, and then with the next bite a spot fell off of my fork onto the white plate....

I looked at the spot.....


it was a bug.... a dead one.... but clearly a critter


my tummy feels ucky now....


I know I should be happy

with the extra protein.... but sadly my belly is not that well trained

no more lunch for me

Who sang along? Tells my age, I did.

Yes I sang the Eurythmics version!

I went to the feed store this morning and look what followed me home.

Awwwww!

We are the world
We are the chittlins

Know that song too, don't like chittlins.

thanks i love the photo. i got it during a skype session on friday.

Very cute family. Safe travels to you.

Chickens are confused with recent solar event..the end made me laugh out loud. Funny little critters..but, it was getting dark after all!

 

[vehve]

My main issue with GMO is modifying for pesticide tolerance. Also, long term effects need more study. The lawsuits on using own seeds that have been contaminated are backwards in my opinion. It's the farmer who's crop has been infected with modified stuff that shoild receive money, nit the other way around. I also think GMO should aways be mentioned on the label.