the pictures of spayed hens!

[ranchhand]

Couple of questions:

Do you actually have, or have been around in person, any of these birds?

Would you please provide a link to the actual information online?

Thank you.

 

[little_grey_bantam]

I am wanting to say, maybe they are like other animals... animals have both testosterone and estrogen (small amounts of the opposite). If you remove the main hormone, the small amounts of the other takes over????

Think testosterone takers (not removing hormone, but adding other hormones) and whatnot... also, when women got through menopause they have less estrogen... some women get more hair on their bodies (chins) and whatnot. Who knows. I could be wrong!

 

[Erica]

Hens without functioning ovaries do start to develop male secondary sexual characteristics. I've seen it happen in a hen that survived EYP. She didn't develop exactly like the ones in the photo though... She developed pointier hackle feathers and she did crow, quite long and loud!

I would wonder why anyone would spay a hen to begin with? They don't get any fatter do they? All you would get, I feel, is no eggs, pointier feathers and crowing...

 

[sugar209]

Quote:
http://bbs.zmyanji.com/ I found then here,but this is all chinese.

 

[bhaus]

Anyone still have info or source of pics on poulards? I'd like to see some pictures of the procedure and of the ovary as it is identified and removed.
I have tried a couple of capons - but my latest clutch is straight run and I have just learned of poulards, found this thread but the links no longer work. Thanks

 

[collie1470]

Maybe it's just me but I don't get how taking away the female hormones gives them male characteristics?   X minus X doesn't equal Y.    Are they injecting male hormones to make them rooster-ish?   Sorry, but they just look like plain old roosters to me.   /img/smilies/hmm.png

It actually makes sense. Unlike mammals, chickens starts out as fetuses closely resembling males until the female hormones kick in, and the sex is determined by the sexchromosome from the sperm. Which is opposite of us, who's sex is determined by the sex chromosome from the egg and we all start out closer to female until the male hormones kick in. So it does make sense that taking away the female hormones, the bird would appear more masculine

 

[Wol1]

It actually makes sense. Unlike mammals, chickens starts out as fetuses closely resembling males until the female hormones kick in, and the sex is determined by the sexchromosome from the sperm. Which is opposite of us, who's sex is determined by the sex chromosome from the egg and we all start out closer to female until the male hormones kick in. So it does make sense that taking away the female hormones, the bird would appear more masculine

Um, actually, for the record, it's the opposite. In birds, moths, butterflies, fish and reptiles, the egg determines sex. In mammals, it's the sperm that determines the sex of the offspring. Which is why men used to divorce women who bore only girls. It couldn't possibly be his doing. Found that info here: http://www.mypetchicken.com/backyar...etermined-in-chickens-and-what-does-H100.aspx Unless I'm reading your post incorrectly.

 

[collie1470]

Nope, my phone mixed up what I was trying to type lol. I'll go back and edit it (this is what happens when I don't make sure this darn phone doesn't bounce around where I'm typing)

 

[collie1470]

Well, nevermind, it won't let me edit. But yeah, their sex is determined by the egg, ours by the sperm. I really need to get a new phone before too long lol.