The Rhodebar thread!

 

in addition if you cross one of those cockerels to HRIR hens then some of the cockerels from that mating will have the same genotype as the f1 cockerel. So they should look the same as the f1 you used except likely with a better type.   If i understand what nic has been saying correctly.

not only better Type, most genes found on HRIR would be in homozygous state at this stage


let me make sure I understand what you are saying (since I had not considered using a single barred F1 cockerel...

you are saying to cross a Rhobebar roo overt hrir hens and then use a cockeral out of that hatch who is single barred to breed back to rir hens for yet another single barred possibility but with better type etc?

Did I understand that?
Then use that cockerel over rhodebar hens and about half of boss and all the girls would have correct barring. .. but would they breed true beyond that? Using the resulting hens and double barred cockerels?
 
let me make sure I understand what you are saying (since I had not considered using a single barred F1 cockerel...

you are saying to cross a Rhobebar roo overt hrir hens and then use a cockeral out of that hatch who is single barred to breed back to rir hens for yet another single barred possibility but with better type etc?

Did I understand that?
Then use that cockerel over rhodebar hens and about half of boss and all the girls would have correct barring. .. but would they breed true beyond that? Using the resulting hens and double barred cockerels?
you got it...

50% of those males which will be 75% HRIR will be single Barred, but only the wildtype looking ones are need it, that means culling...

those BC1(back cross to Parent, in this case to HRIR) single barred males can be cross back to your best Rhodebar hens to produce Double Barring males with much better type than your current Rhodebar males
 
This is my new Rhodebar chick.



He's a he, that white spot was visible before he'd even dried. Can you tell this early if he's single or double barred? I'm hoping for double, I think they are more attractive than the single :)
 
This is my new Rhodebar chick.



He's a he, that white spot was visible before he'd even dried. Can you tell this early if he's single or double barred? I'm hoping for double, I think they are more attractive than the single :)
I'd say he's double barred, what do his parents look like? If the hen is barred and his father is double barred then you know he's double barred. if either of his parents are not barred at all though then you know he's single barred. If the hen is barred and the rooster is single barred then he could be either, but i'd have to see a sibling with him to know for sure. Keep in mind this is based on research and not experience, nic would probably have a better idea than me.
 
This is my new Rhodebar chick. He's a he, that white spot was visible before he'd even dried. Can you tell this early if he's single or double barred? I'm hoping for double, I think they are more attractive than the single :)
He is double barred. If he was single barred he wouldn't be a true Rhodebar male. Only the females ate single barred.
 
I'd say he's double barred, what do his parents look like? If the hen is barred and his father is double barred then you know he's double barred. if either of his parents are not barred at all though then you know he's single barred. If the hen is barred and the rooster is single barred then he could be either, but i'd have to see a sibling with him to know for sure. Keep in mind this is based on research and not experience, nic would probably have a better idea than me.

The seller had a Rooster photo in their ad, but I don't know if that's his father or not and there weren't any hen pictures. He has no siblings, out of the 12 eggs shipped he was the only one that hatched.
 

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