The Rhodebar thread!

[Ihilani Coffee]

well I read every page up to page 63...but I must say I'm a bit horrified to know that Greenfire farms is charging so much for birds that are obviously not producing
true Rhodebar "type" delivering instead birds that are laying green/blue eggs and such.
The fact that they continue to deny this mistake and insist their birds are "pure" is fraud. The standard seems clear as do the look
of chicks that papabrooder was producing. I do hope they've corrected their error as most people (myself included) don't know a lot about the genetics aspect. I applaud the continued
and gracious efforts of Niclandia on teaching the genetic component to us because it's clear that Greenfire Farms is unwilling to admit serious error on their part and make it right.

I had been reading about these birds and thought about breeding/hatching some but I'm not only concerned about spending my hard earned money on a breed that is being
misrepresented by Greenfire Farms to such a degree that they continue to sell (at high cost). But will in the future avoid purchasing anything from them.
If this were a horse (and I know horse genetics better than chicken genetics) I would be livid!
I hope it has been resolved and wish the best to everyone that are going forward with their Rhodebar programs.

Same with the Isbars from GFF, it seems. I understand that it's very very expensive to import rare breeds, and at the same time unconscionable to lie to recoup those costs if that is indeed the case.

 

[RedRidge]

You simply have to be careful that you are buying from a breeder who knows what they have. Ask for pictures of the parents as chicks and pics of the eggs. With those two things you should be fairly confident.

 

[nicalandia]

These are the pure that hatched today... the F1s hatch in a few weeks...

document the different ways these two different toned males develope, maybe the darker one will end up darker

 

[malndobe]

I had a chick that looked a lot like the lighter colored one in that photo. I posted some pictures of him earlier in the thread. He was growing up to have a really nice color no black in the chest etc. Unfortunately I had to cull him yesterday he had a twisted leg and it just wasn't straightening out no matter what I did.
My other three cockerels where colored like the darker chick. There are photos of them earlier in this thread also. They all have some black right now scattered throughout the chest and the rest of their body. It will be interesting to see how yours mature.

 

[RedRidge]

I suspect they will both look just like their father from my experience but I will not breed the lighter one. With the HRIR blood I am breeding in maintaining obvious auto sexing is important.

 

[call ducks]

Hey everyone - Just to give you an idea how my breeding plan goes take a look at the blog my mentor wrote. In 2015 I will start out with smaller numbers (say 150-200) and increase each year. But I will also have like three breeds to work with so have to compromise on the amount of chicks reared per year.

http://truenorthfarm.ca/production-breeding/

 

[hillfloweranch]

This is a question for niclandia....when breeding to improve physical characteristics such as; comb,body, tail etc, how does one know which genes are passed from each parent. Do males pass body type and females pass on comb characteristics? Thanx for any info

 

[nicalandia]

Quote:
Body Type, comb size, Tail angle are all multi genic traist, both parents Contribute to this, sometimes its a balancing act, like if you have a rooster with a large comb and a hen with a small comb if you cross them their progeny will have Intermediate comb size

 

[RedRidge]

However, you will periodically find an animal that tends to be very prepotent for a specific characteristic.
This is not sex related but can be used to your advantage if that prepotent trait is desirable.

 

[Ihilani Coffee]

Quote: If poultry are similar to other species however, sometimes you will get the coarse head of the draft on the same body as the tiny little Arabian feet...so a nonfeathered shank and a squirrel-tailed crooked comb on a deep wide typey body (or a beautifully feathered shank perfect topline on a scrawny body) can also come from trying the balancing. Are we having fun yet?