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Gnarly Bunch Update: Two very large eggs today. I'm not real satisfied with what I saw on Ruby Crockett's butt last night and am thinking this is still a gleet issue. She is mildly prolapsed...her cloaca is swollen, red and protrudes a little when she is under stress. Just a little . I put Preparation H on her last night again and also dosed her with some Olive Leaf Extract, which I hadn't gotten around to doing on an individual basis with this hen. I'll be dosing her again this evening with the OLE and looking at the vent for any progress.

I must be getting soft, going to all this trouble for one hen and ordinarily I guess I would not. But that is the nature of an experiment...try things to see if they work. Can't really see if they work unless you try them first and then can report on if they worked. So far, the Nustock was great and did wonderful things but this hen, of all the rest, seems to need a little extra booster to kick this gleet/thrush out of her system. Not being one of my original flock, I have no way of knowing her immune system development or genetics, so I'm flying by the seat of my pants on this one.

It would be a shame to cull such a pretty hen...who is still laying huge eggs when her butt looks and feels this way, and she is fighting an infection. What a trooper!

Middle Sister, whom we have nicknamed Stumpy, due to her swollen ankles, is looking better each day. I'll be looking at her feet this night as well, to see how that gland looks and to smell it. Yes, I said, to smell it. Now, I don't often smell chicken feet but it behooves one to smell any areas that are suspicious looking and may have harbored infection. As a nurse I've got a pretty good nose for infection and can often tell when someone has a sinus infection or allergies just by talking to them. I can actually smell it on their breath. Yeah...not my favorite gift, but I have it all the same.
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Yes, I even smelled Ruby's butt the last time we examined it...that's another reason I know the gleet is diminished a great deal. When we first discovered it, her butt smelled like a real rotten deer that had been out in the sun for three days. Very bad. Now, I can not detect that rotten odor and she doesn't have any drainage but she still has this edema inside her vent, so I don't want to get lax on this infection. Getting out the OLE and going to see if it works miracles like it did in my family. I've dissolved 3 capsules in water and olive oil and am giving her 1/3 of this mix each night for 3 nights and will see if that helps at all.
 
The Prep-H really worked! She is not so swollen and red inside her vent and I cannot see her cloaca tonight. I just hope it stays that way. It doesn't help that she lays such large eggs. Went ahead and applied more Prep-H for good measure and also some NS on the rim and corners of the vent, just for kicks and giggles. Gave her OLE dose and put her back on the roost...I bet she is getting pretty fed up with people touching her butt!
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Soaked Stumpy's(AKA MS) feet in epsom salts tonight and massaged that gland, removed a little debris and reapplied NS. Her legs now show no evidence of scale mites and are nice and yellow...no more pale legs!
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Hi Beekissed,

This may be a dumb question - but I need to know as I plan to use the NU as one step to improvement on my white leghorn who has been having issues with dirty butt.

Question: do you wear gloves when you put the stuff on the girls and if so what kind?

Thanks.
YIC,
Bobbie
 
Great news on both counts, Stumpy and Ruby.. When you say your using olive leaf ex. how are you using it? Looked at my girls bottom last night and no more white yucky stuff running but I notice she spend so time going around to her vent during the day like something is bothering her, although it may be itchy since she's getting in her feathers back there.
 
I crushed the contents of 3 capsules and dissolved them in water and a little olive oil and gave her one third dose the last two nights. Tonight will be her last dose and then I'll wait to see if it is having any positive affect on her.

Noticed Stumpy's feet today and the swelling has gone down immensely!!!
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I took pics but my camera is charging...will review the pics as soon as that is done and post a pic of her feet after just a 5 min. soak in epsom salts last night and a massage with NS.
 
Hi Beekissed,

This may be a dumb question - but I need to know as I plan to use the NU as one step to improvement on my white leghorn who has been having issues with dirty butt.

Question: do you wear gloves when you put the stuff on the girls and if so what kind?

Thanks.
YIC,
Bobbie

Yes, and just plain ol' vinyl gloves....The Bat is allergic to latex, so we have vinyl gloves here. We use them for canning hot peppers, gutting deer, processing chickens. Handy tool to always have around.
 
I crushed the contents of 3 capsules and dissolved them in water and a little olive oil and gave her one third dose the last two nights. Tonight will be her last dose and then I'll wait to see if it is having any positive affect on her.

Noticed Stumpy's feet today and the swelling has gone down immensely!!!
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I took pics but my camera is charging...will review the pics as soon as that is done and post a pic of her feet after just a 5 min. soak in epsom salts last night and a massage with NS.
Okay but are you putting this in her mouth or up her vent? lol and looking forward to seeing Stumpys feet.
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I know the changes are subtle and hard to detect in these pics, but as a nurse I'm pretty adept at noticing when something is swollen or has become less swollen...in the first few pics you can see that Stumpy AKA Middle Sister has swollen ankles and toes, with a shiny and puffed appearance of the ankles in this first pic. You can see a crease at the bottom of the swelling that shows the edema is so tight it has created a roll or crease in her flesh at the bend of the ankle.







In this bottom pic you can't see the shiny puff at the top of the ankle joint and a more smoothly flowing line of the foot. I still see redness around the toes but the foot has become more uniform in shape and size...no more skinny legs and big feet as in the second pic on this page. Now she has nice, thick legs flowing down into more normal sized ankles(no puffy or shiny roll of flesh at the ankle) and the feet look more in proportion to her legs. We are getting there.....another soak tonight perhaps and this time a massage with bag balm.



In these two lower pics you can see a better stance and a better stride, she no longer walks or stands hunched over with her neck pulled down into her body. If you see a chicken with this stance or walk at all times, this usually indicates some discomfort in the chicken. That's one of the things I look for in my flock when I do a daily looky lou...everyone moving good? Everyone standing proud? Now, you can't count the times when they are just resting...often times you will see them with their neck tucked down and just standing still. When it's cold outside and they are resting you will often see this and it's just conserving heat. Sometimes it's just a bird resting while standing up. But..if they walk that way or stand that way all the time, you know something is up.
 
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