Awesome! There will definately be a bunch of unamed dinosaurs
What do you think of gorgosaurus as a carnotaurus rival?
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What do you think of gorgosaurus as a carnotaurus rival?
You're smart.
Agreed. I still love that little turkey Dino!
I started with just watching them, then I got books, and more books, then the internet!
So right, Gertrude, you always have the answers.
Haha, yeah, very happy, debate silenced. Sorry about all that, Gertrude! But it was fun.[COLOR=EE82EE]Can I silence this debate with the microraptor?[/COLOR]
[COLOR=EE82EE]Feathers! Super-duper glidey dinos! See?[/COLOR]
[COLOR=EE82EE]Everybody happy now?[/COLOR]
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Awesome! There will definately be a bunch of unamed dinosaurs
Um…I totally know what that is. I'm just looking it up because reasons.
Oh that thing is AWESOME!
You're smart.
Agreed. I still love that little turkey Dino!
I started with just watching them, then I got books, and more books, then the internet!
So right, Gertrude, you always have the answers.
Haha, yeah, very happy, debate silenced. Sorry about all that, Gertrude! But it was fun.
I feel so invested in this RP now... LOL!
Don't apologize about the debate – it was interesting. It just had to end somewhere.
And I am ALWAYS right!
Awesome! There will definately be a bunch of unamed dinosaurs
Love it! They are nicely matched, and having two large predictors, fighting for the same food source, could cause some big problems for the humans and make for some action packed scenes.
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Originally Posted by Gertrude McFuzz
Can I silence this debate with the microraptor?
Feathers! Super-duper glidey dinos! See?
Everybody happy now?
No, not really... The Microraptor has a very similar appearance to the modern-day Hoatzin (A bird that inhabits South America), which would suggest that it was all bird, and no reptile.
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Originally Posted by LoveThatChick
Please tell me if I'm wrong in this, but I'm assuming that you do not believe in evaluation, or any form of it. I don't mean any offense to you by that. Because if genetic information can only be lost, then how do you explain birds developing feathers in the first place? With evolution. Just how pre-modern Homo erectus changed when they migrated from Africa, conditions were different, and they adapted to their environment. You can't say that blue eyes came from the loss of brown, no, they were a genetic mutation, which is what evolution is.
And you ask why reptile grow feathers? Because that's not what I was saying they did, I said that they had feathers, not that they wanted then so they grew them. They developed feathers, and when the majority of life became extinct on earth, leaving the smallest, which included mammals, very small dinosaurs, reptiles and birds, that then evolved in the absence of large dinosaurs, that for many species, were their predators.
Oh, and I forgot to answer what you said about raptors. All fossils are different, and where they are geographic plays a large factor, because depending of climate, soil, etc., they will be preserved in varying levels of decomposition. Have you ever seen a decaying carcass? Or many, in my case, and some, especially the small, get covered very quickly by sentiment, plant matter, etc. Others, mostly the large ones, hang out for a long time, and by the time they are starting to be covered, only bones are left. Their are many factors.
You are partially correct. I do believe in "evolution" in the sense that animals can (and will) adapt, and that small genetic variations are common (such as different eye colors and different breeds). However, it is quite improbable that an animal would transform into an entirely different animal (Yes, I am saying impossible). Mutations have never been observed benefiting the organism, only harming or not damaging it.
Also, you brought up the question, "how did birds get feathers in the first place?" Well, it's quite simple: they were created that way.
I hope you don't mind me asking, but how (or why) did the dinosaur's ancestors develop feathers, with no immediate need for them? You reach the same roadblock.
Also, your comment about the fossils... I see what you mean. The feather patterns may have been lost, but with all of the fossils of raptor dinosaurs, I would expect to see more evidence then that.
Originally Posted by Gertrude McFuzz
Can I silence this debate with the microraptor?
Feathers! Super-duper glidey dinos! See?
Everybody happy now?
No, not really... The Microraptor has a very similar appearance to the modern-day Hoatzin (A bird that inhabits South America), which would suggest that it was all bird, and no reptile.
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Originally Posted by LoveThatChick
Please tell me if I'm wrong in this, but I'm assuming that you do not believe in evaluation, or any form of it. I don't mean any offense to you by that. Because if genetic information can only be lost, then how do you explain birds developing feathers in the first place? With evolution. Just how pre-modern Homo erectus changed when they migrated from Africa, conditions were different, and they adapted to their environment. You can't say that blue eyes came from the loss of brown, no, they were a genetic mutation, which is what evolution is.
And you ask why reptile grow feathers? Because that's not what I was saying they did, I said that they had feathers, not that they wanted then so they grew them. They developed feathers, and when the majority of life became extinct on earth, leaving the smallest, which included mammals, very small dinosaurs, reptiles and birds, that then evolved in the absence of large dinosaurs, that for many species, were their predators.
Oh, and I forgot to answer what you said about raptors. All fossils are different, and where they are geographic plays a large factor, because depending of climate, soil, etc., they will be preserved in varying levels of decomposition. Have you ever seen a decaying carcass? Or many, in my case, and some, especially the small, get covered very quickly by sentiment, plant matter, etc. Others, mostly the large ones, hang out for a long time, and by the time they are starting to be covered, only bones are left. Their are many factors.
You are partially correct. I do believe in "evolution" in the sense that animals can (and will) adapt, and that small genetic variations are common (such as different eye colors and different breeds). However, it is quite improbable that an animal would transform into an entirely different animal (Yes, I am saying impossible). Mutations have never been observed benefiting the organism, only harming or not damaging it.
Also, you brought up the question, "how did birds get feathers in the first place?" Well, it's quite simple: they were created that way.
I hope you don't mind me asking, but how (or why) did the dinosaur's ancestors develop feathers, with no immediate need for them? You reach the same roadblock.
Also, your comment about the fossils... I see what you mean. The feather patterns may have been lost, but with all of the fossils of raptor dinosaurs, I would expect to see more evidence then that.
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So, 'similar' appearances drives your ideas on what is related? Just look at its anatomy, for starters, they are quite different. The Micro-raptor could be an ancestry of our modern birds, but they are dinosaurs, apart from feathers, there is little resemblance.
You are partially correct. I do believe in "evolution" in the sense that animals can (and will) adapt, and thatsmall genetic variations are common (such as different eye colors and different breeds). However, it is quite improbable that an animal would transform into an entirely different animal (Yes, I am saying impossible). Mutations have never been observed benefiting the organism, only harming or not damaging it.
Also, you brought up the question, "how did birds get feathers in the first place?" Well, it's quite simple: they were created that way.
I hope you don't mind me asking, but how (or why) did the dinosaur's ancestors develop feathers, with no immediate need for them? You reach the same roadblock.
Also, your comment about the fossils... I see what you mean. The feather patterns may have been lost, but with all of the fossils of raptor dinosaurs, I would expect to see more evidence then that.
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((Sorry Gertrude, we'll be done very soon.))
Again, why do you say 'transformed into an entirely different animal'? And on the contrary, the human mutation for blue eyes was very helpful: in colder climates, with longer winters, light eyes were able to take in more light.
Oh, do you believe the earth is 6,000 years old? I'm not going to debate with you on your 'they were created that way' answer to lives mysteries, though I find it quite odd that people as smart as you, could instead of finding the answers (we have already traced the origin of the universe back to the beginning, The Big Bang.), just fall back on an archaic belief that, as all religions are, was made to explain what they couldn't explain. Until now.
There are no roadblocks when it comes to science. Dinosaurs had what are sometimes referred to as “proto-feathers”, they are not the modern, highly developed feathers that you see on birds today. They were covered in a thin layer of down, sometimes referred to as "Dino-fuzz", that was made up of protein fibers, just as feathers are. They had this Dino-fuzz as means of insulation.
I'm not saying, in any way that I am a leading expert on dinosaurs, or any prehistoric animals. But I do my due diligence, and I've gone through many a course on everything from anthropology to religions of the world.
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