The stock market looks bad.

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I have WHAT in my yard? :

Yes, China already owns most of the US debt and this is a HUGE worry. But, they won't call our note because they need us as a market.


The bailouts are nothing compared to what lack of transparency and rampant evidence of corporate greed and malfeasance have done. Other countries and investors count on the US dollar because it is stable and it is stable because our government and infrastructure are stable.

Currently our infrastructure is NOT stable because investors are afraid everyone is cooking the books and are corrupt. Until they begin to believe otherwise they are keeping their money in their pockets. This isn't about confidence in the markets it is about confidence in the businesses.

And I am afraid it may be too far gone to be saved by anyone.

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I agree, China has no reason, at this point to call in any debts, and yes the carry a large portion of our debt. I also agree that the American public are very concerned with corrupt business practice and where their tax dollars are being spent.
I know I do not like to see the government bailing out the big 3 auto makes when all the while their CEOs get rich and the working people are getting poorer. Yes, I believe we all have to comprimise, and we had better do it soon or ???? who really knows what will happen!​
 
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Thanks for the reminder.....
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I don't think as adults we need to resort to name calling!
 
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Well, same was with Bush. I can dig out some examples for you if you want. Oh, and I fixed your capitalization.

The president(s) words carry little bearing on the markets. Bailout or not, the same sell off would be happening right now. The indexes may have been a 10% or so percent lower. It's all going to end up the same.
 
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Well, same was with Bush. I can dig out some examples for you if you want. Oh, and I fixed your capitalization.

The president(s) words carry little bearing on the markets. Bailout or not, the same sell off would be happening right now. The indexes may have been a 10% or so percent lower. It's all going to end up the same.

True it is, they all seem to be running around looking for someone else to blame, and it seems Obama arrived just in time to get hit right in the face with this.

The markets are reacting to everything, and it doesn't make sense.

Personally although I do fully realise the trouble it would have caused, and I know I am over here in the UK, but I wish they had let all of these guys fall flat on their faces. It is us that will pay in the end, one way or another, but that is what we get for trusting them in the first place I guess. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Now who said that ?????

George Bush and his cronies must be sitting home having a right belly laugh at it all right now. bet he never worries about where his next meal is coming from.
 
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