Yardbird, you are AWESOME and I really appreciate this thread! Your birds are really good lookin!
The Texan Pioneer utility pigeon- a tutorial
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I use several forums including this one to let people know when I have birds for sale. And I can always sale birds at the pigeon shows that we attend. I have shipped live birds for people out of state. But the post office has cut off shipping because of the heat. Maybe again in the fall.
Also there is a group of people that will always buy dressed out birds If I want to sale them. Those are 9.00 each.
I use several forums including this one to let people know when I have birds for sale. And I can always sale birds at the pigeon shows that we attend. I have shipped live birds for people out of state. But the post office has cut off shipping because of the heat. Maybe again in the fall.
Also there is a group of people that will always buy dressed out birds If I want to sale them. Those are 9.00 each.
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Here is some good general info on the breed. And like I said well cover care of the young later.
Whereas the origin of most breeds of pigeons may be rather obscure in history, the origin of the Auto-Sex Texan Pioneer is very definite as to time, place, breeds used, and purpose.
This development project began in Houston Texas in 1953 by Mr. Delwin V. James. The Texan Pioneer was developed to obtain the most efficient squab producer possible. This meant a squab having not only plumpness, but also an exceptionally high dress out to live weight ratio. Bred from parents who are fast producers, good feeders, not overly large, and having high disease resistance, and a long producing period of life. This requirement called for the development of a terrific breast, with small heads, small legs and feet, and the reduction of wing and tail size. The forerunner of the Texan Pioneer was called the Auto-Sex Texan. This was a loft name given them for record purposes only. The Texan was produced with an auto-sex factor through the use of Auto-Sex Kings and the French Mondains, giving a hybrid of 3/8 Auto-Sex King and 5/8 French Mondain.
The perfect squabbing type was quickly recognized for its show quality. It was from this observation that the show type Auto-Sexing Texan Pioneer came into being. The Auto-Sex Texan Pioneer has tight feathering, broad breast, short tail and wings, and has a fairly straight back and tail line. The mature birds will weigh between 28 and 34 ounces in prime condition. The average squab weighs 24 ounces live weight at 30 days of age. The Auto-Sexing factor allows the identification of cocks and hens at any time from hatching date on. The hens are long down and will feather out faded colors of blue, black, ash-red, or "T" pattern ash-red, while the cocks are short down, white with some flecking of colored feathers on neck and some about the body. This auto-sex factor breeds pure as long as pure Auto-Sex Texan Pioneers are mated together.
In the past few years, the Recessive Red color has emerged in the Texan Pioneer Breed. This is a very beautiful color. The cock is a very light yellow, while the hen is dark red. Here again, these colors breed true as pure Recessive Red Pioneers are mated together. The Auto-Sex Texan Pioneer breed was recognized by the National Pigeon Association in 1961 as a new/pure breed. The Texan Pioneer Association was formed in 1963 and has been affiliated with the NPA every year since. Texan Pioneers have been shown at most NPA shows since 1961.
This is a hen. You can tell by the darker red wine coloring. All my birds are the recessive red color.
And here is a cock bird note the more cream color.
And here is two young cock birds about the size that I like to butcher.
Later, Joe
Whereas the origin of most breeds of pigeons may be rather obscure in history, the origin of the Auto-Sex Texan Pioneer is very definite as to time, place, breeds used, and purpose.
This development project began in Houston Texas in 1953 by Mr. Delwin V. James. The Texan Pioneer was developed to obtain the most efficient squab producer possible. This meant a squab having not only plumpness, but also an exceptionally high dress out to live weight ratio. Bred from parents who are fast producers, good feeders, not overly large, and having high disease resistance, and a long producing period of life. This requirement called for the development of a terrific breast, with small heads, small legs and feet, and the reduction of wing and tail size. The forerunner of the Texan Pioneer was called the Auto-Sex Texan. This was a loft name given them for record purposes only. The Texan was produced with an auto-sex factor through the use of Auto-Sex Kings and the French Mondains, giving a hybrid of 3/8 Auto-Sex King and 5/8 French Mondain.
The perfect squabbing type was quickly recognized for its show quality. It was from this observation that the show type Auto-Sexing Texan Pioneer came into being. The Auto-Sex Texan Pioneer has tight feathering, broad breast, short tail and wings, and has a fairly straight back and tail line. The mature birds will weigh between 28 and 34 ounces in prime condition. The average squab weighs 24 ounces live weight at 30 days of age. The Auto-Sexing factor allows the identification of cocks and hens at any time from hatching date on. The hens are long down and will feather out faded colors of blue, black, ash-red, or "T" pattern ash-red, while the cocks are short down, white with some flecking of colored feathers on neck and some about the body. This auto-sex factor breeds pure as long as pure Auto-Sex Texan Pioneers are mated together.
In the past few years, the Recessive Red color has emerged in the Texan Pioneer Breed. This is a very beautiful color. The cock is a very light yellow, while the hen is dark red. Here again, these colors breed true as pure Recessive Red Pioneers are mated together. The Auto-Sex Texan Pioneer breed was recognized by the National Pigeon Association in 1961 as a new/pure breed. The Texan Pioneer Association was formed in 1963 and has been affiliated with the NPA every year since. Texan Pioneers have been shown at most NPA shows since 1961.
This is a hen. You can tell by the darker red wine coloring. All my birds are the recessive red color.
And here is a cock bird note the more cream color.
And here is two young cock birds about the size that I like to butcher.
Later, Joe
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Wow. That's a nice profit margin over the cost of food, I imagine. Must be a delicacy. Do you pluck or skin them?
Wow. That's a nice profit margin over the cost of food, I imagine. Must be a delicacy. Do you pluck or skin them?
Wow I cant wait to see more
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SOOOO soooo sorry about dropping the ball on this thread. I have had some crazzzzy things going on around here for a while. I think I have things settled down now.
My loft is producing well and I have many birds ready to process.
I have two hogs to butcher this weekend. If I have time I will do some birds. If not, weekend after next. I would like to take my time and get some good pics.
Joe
My loft is producing well and I have many birds ready to process.
I have two hogs to butcher this weekend. If I have time I will do some birds. If not, weekend after next. I would like to take my time and get some good pics.
Joe
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WOW...you are just too cool, 24 oz at 30 days? WOW...and look at their size: they look bigger than Bantams...
24 OZ in 30 Days? WOW...THATS 680 grams...
I wish I had a pair or two of these birds. They're very pretty, and would probably make good pumpers for my racers
And there's always the plus of them being edible if the need comes, haha.
GUYS.....its 680 grams in 30 DAYS....!!! thats CornishX land....
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