The Welsummer Thread!!!!

[pinkchick]

Adorable chicks everyone and congrats on the egg Mudsow!

 

[vanalpaca]

I sent in a fraudulent listing report to ebay and I also messaged the seller. But he has the option to list the question OR NOT, so they won't.

I suggest just going onto the 'report' button, choosing one, and sending in the bad report on this seller.

It can take ebay 2-3 days to even respond and they may or may not choose to do anything about it.

Now the listing repeats the picture like wallpaper!!

 

[eggdd]

they won't do anything unless reported by image owner. at the end of the day, who are you? how would they know you're being truthful? maybe you're a wronged customer who wants to cause them hardship? maybe you're an ex-lover who wants to be a pain? also, it's simply none of your business. if the image owner doesn't care enough to follow through, then why would they care what you say?

ebay is a company with actual legit policy. they don't have folks wandering around making individual decisions based on who they like.

 

[vanalpaca]

I must say that the hen in that picture is
VERY PRETTY.

Whitmore farms has Welsummers AND Ameraucana and a couple other chicken breeds and they have nice birds at good prices.

I recently read the article in the ABC spring bulletin on his Ameraucanas and blue eggs. Will does a good job breeding his birds.

There is a website up for them and they do sell chicks, 25 per order minimum.

A lot of us here have birds from him.

do hate to see some ebay er making a fast profit off of Whitmores hard work to produce the bird in that photo. Don't think it is a matter of who you like and 'who you don't', would you want someone doing this to you is the question!

 

[eggdd]

of course i wouldn't. that wasn't my point. i was simply saying, good intentions aside, your only hope, as an outside unaffiliated party, is the seller decides to remove to photo used without permission. ebay doesn't know who is right or wrong - - and i suspect they are unlikely to get involved unless the owner of the photo raises a fuss. perhaps i'm wrong.

that said, whoever brought this up has a done a good thing in bringing it to the attention of other folks. now, we potential buyers, know about this seller. that doesn't directly rectify the situation, but it indirectly punishes the seller from future sells and casts shadows on his/her business practices. right?

 

[shesaredroan]

This business of using other people's photos has been a problem for quite a while. This is why many people put "watermarks" on their photos so unethical people can't 'steal' them.
I am an artist and GREATLY resent anyone taking my images and presenting them as their own!!!

 

[vanalpaca]

Paul from Lakeland, Florida responded to my question regarding his use of the photo, claims he 'found the photo on google' and there isn't any copyrite on google (photo has been photoshopped to remove the whitemore farms from the photo btw) and then he says, besides he isn't selling chickens he is selling eggs!!!!

No photos of eggs, though, just Whitmore farms photo.....

So buyer beware everyone!! Don't shop ebay!!

 

[tazcat70]

Has anyone asked him if he has a picture of his eggs?

 

[EweSheep]

It would have been nice if he would put some kind of underline note under the pictures or let buyers know he is using the examples of Whitmore pullets what a Welsummer looks like if he could not get pictures of his birds. I am sure he CAN get some pictures but there are alot of poultry folks out there put out their pride and joy in their pictures and then someone else misleads the egg buyer that it is what their Welsummers should look like. We all have common sense and courtesy to do our business/hobby a favor by taking pictures of our birds, eggs and whats not and do it in honest and trusting manner.

When someone takes a photo off of a well known website, it makes me be on guard and asking alot more questions and the ethics about the breeders themselves why would they WANT to steal a photo or two off from a website? If I was to buy hatching eggs from this person, I sure heck expect the Welsummers to look like that! If the chicks grew up NOT looking like the ones in the photographs, then I would really question.

We only want the best out of the breed and have higher expectations out of our Welsummers.

When the seller decided to "rubber stamp" the pullet photos, the intentions are obviously clear.....

 

[tazcat70]

I agree, he is just being absolutely RUDE.