What do you think of this pullets comb? Is it too large or is this typical? Her sister has a very small flat comb. (cockeral for comparison)
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In my opinion her comb is far too wide and rough textured, she will still make a good layer though.
In my opinion her comb is far too wide and rough textured, she will still make a good layer though.
Ooo Wyandottes, beautiful birds everyone!
Here are some of mine, I have 3 hens and one roo.
Dust bathing.
Roo strut.
whatchu lookin' at human?
Trying to sneak into the barn and got caught!
Here are some of mine, I have 3 hens and one roo.
Dust bathing.
Roo strut.
whatchu lookin' at human?
Trying to sneak into the barn and got caught!
Wyandotte Breeders,
I have finally read through the whole thread, all 400+ pages. Back in the upper 300 pages was a great post about breeding Partridge. Ok now I am picking up my quad from Foleys in a couple of weeks. So I am supper excited. I also show dogs, and in fact will be at the Dog show the weekend I pick up the birds.
So I am trying to learn about breeding. Coming from Dogs, I understand inbreeding, line breeding and out crosses. I see in chickens, sometimes you use other breeds, now that concept is extreamly forgien, and I would have a hard time with that.
WHat I am trying to comprehend is the breeding of the LF, If you want good laced hens, you use a poor color Roo (Hackels and breast), and to get good roos, you use poor laced hens (saddle feather), am I understanding this? Of course I then read that some are able to use good lace color roos with the good lace colored hens, and still get good quailty, but could have some that crop up bad.
So in reality, would someone who is interested in breeding for the SOP, need to have 2 flocks as above, or are the LF getting more consistent and ths is not as big of an issue as it has been?
Trying to learn and so excited about my new venture, unfortunalty, I am not good at moderation, and seem to jump in with both feet. Just as I did with the show dogs.
Kris
I have finally read through the whole thread, all 400+ pages. Back in the upper 300 pages was a great post about breeding Partridge. Ok now I am picking up my quad from Foleys in a couple of weeks. So I am supper excited. I also show dogs, and in fact will be at the Dog show the weekend I pick up the birds.
So I am trying to learn about breeding. Coming from Dogs, I understand inbreeding, line breeding and out crosses. I see in chickens, sometimes you use other breeds, now that concept is extreamly forgien, and I would have a hard time with that.
WHat I am trying to comprehend is the breeding of the LF, If you want good laced hens, you use a poor color Roo (Hackels and breast), and to get good roos, you use poor laced hens (saddle feather), am I understanding this? Of course I then read that some are able to use good lace color roos with the good lace colored hens, and still get good quailty, but could have some that crop up bad.
So in reality, would someone who is interested in breeding for the SOP, need to have 2 flocks as above, or are the LF getting more consistent and ths is not as big of an issue as it has been?
Trying to learn and so excited about my new venture, unfortunalty, I am not good at moderation, and seem to jump in with both feet. Just as I did with the show dogs.
Kris
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I would discuss the breeding characteristics of the line of birds you are aquiring with teh folks who have been breeding them, in this case the Foley's.
each and every family and line within the family has its own known breeding faults, problems and solutions. There are common known methods to compensate mate for lacing quality while establishing the pattern or fixing the pattern which requires a fair amount of time and patients. if the Breeder you are aquiring the birds from will not disclose the known faults and pairing methods to combat the faults then one should seek birds from someone else. (I highly doubt you have that problem with teh Foley's) Everyone hatches culls and over time the number of culls is reduced, keep in mind that maintianing and breeding from one line and working on fault resolution to that end is ussually easier than bringing in additional lines with other faults or breeding characteristics. The First year with new birds is spent learning the birds, test mating, recording and watching them grow. you will learn a great deal about a new set of birds with the first years production, and as you cull for the characteristics you want to continue and discard the ones you dont want the line will improve and prosper getting better each year.
I would discuss the breeding characteristics of the line of birds you are aquiring with teh folks who have been breeding them, in this case the Foley's.
each and every family and line within the family has its own known breeding faults, problems and solutions. There are common known methods to compensate mate for lacing quality while establishing the pattern or fixing the pattern which requires a fair amount of time and patients. if the Breeder you are aquiring the birds from will not disclose the known faults and pairing methods to combat the faults then one should seek birds from someone else. (I highly doubt you have that problem with teh Foley's) Everyone hatches culls and over time the number of culls is reduced, keep in mind that maintianing and breeding from one line and working on fault resolution to that end is ussually easier than bringing in additional lines with other faults or breeding characteristics. The First year with new birds is spent learning the birds, test mating, recording and watching them grow. you will learn a great deal about a new set of birds with the first years production, and as you cull for the characteristics you want to continue and discard the ones you dont want the line will improve and prosper getting better each year.
New to this thread! There are some beautiful birds on here!
These are my Wyandottes
My two full GLW in the shade
This one is my prettiest one, I think
Here they are strutting their stuff in the yard
And I have a Astralorp/GLW Mix. I think is rather stunning in the sun.
I love my hens.
These are my Wyandottes
My two full GLW in the shade
This one is my prettiest one, I think
Here they are strutting their stuff in the yard
And I have a Astralorp/GLW Mix. I think is rather stunning in the sun.
I love my hens.
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wyandotte thread. You have some happy birds!
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No doubt I will be asking lots of questions, as it is best to learn from that breeder, who has the best knowledge of their birds. WHat I am trying to understand is this pullet roo cockeral roo idea. (or is that cockeral hen) I have read about it in other posts, and trying to get an understanding of what it means and how it is used.
It was just mentioned on this thread awhile back, and so I was using it to try and understand. Dog breeding is very different in many ways, and that is what I am knowledgeable about. When I got started in my breed, I gathered info from lots of breeders, but when it came to my origianl breeding I definitly used the guidence of my dogs breeder, as they were my biggest mentor, and knew more about how there lines worked, what seemed dominate and what was recessive.
I look forward to other thoughts on comments on this topic, but in all I enjoy reading and learning. Maybe I need to find a good book on breeding chickens.
Kris
No doubt I will be asking lots of questions, as it is best to learn from that breeder, who has the best knowledge of their birds. WHat I am trying to understand is this pullet roo cockeral roo idea. (or is that cockeral hen) I have read about it in other posts, and trying to get an understanding of what it means and how it is used.
It was just mentioned on this thread awhile back, and so I was using it to try and understand. Dog breeding is very different in many ways, and that is what I am knowledgeable about. When I got started in my breed, I gathered info from lots of breeders, but when it came to my origianl breeding I definitly used the guidence of my dogs breeder, as they were my biggest mentor, and knew more about how there lines worked, what seemed dominate and what was recessive.
I look forward to other thoughts on comments on this topic, but in all I enjoy reading and learning. Maybe I need to find a good book on breeding chickens.
Kris
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No doubt I will be asking lots of questions, as it is best to learn from that breeder, who has the best knowledge of their birds. WHat I am trying to understand is this pullet roo cockeral roo idea. (or is that cockeral hen) I have read about it in other posts, and trying to get an understanding of what it means and how it is used.
It was just mentioned on this thread awhile back, and so I was using it to try and understand. Dog breeding is very different in many ways, and that is what I am knowledgeable about. When I got started in my breed, I gathered info from lots of breeders, but when it came to my origianl breeding I definitly used the guidence of my dogs breeder, as they were my biggest mentor, and knew more about how there lines worked, what seemed dominate and what was recessive.
I look forward to other thoughts on comments on this topic, but in all I enjoy reading and learning. Maybe I need to find a good book on breeding chickens.
Kris
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I too, grew up with show dogs. My mother had Irish Setters and was very successful with her line. Jerry Foley is a fabulous mentor. You'll have excellent birds to start with. Hel'll be honest with you about what aspects of the partridge that need improving in his opinion. He and Rebecca wanted to phase out their blue and black wyandottes to focus on other varieties; so I bought all of their stock. I am pleased beyond words that they trusted me with their many years of hard work.
No doubt I will be asking lots of questions, as it is best to learn from that breeder, who has the best knowledge of their birds. WHat I am trying to understand is this pullet roo cockeral roo idea. (or is that cockeral hen) I have read about it in other posts, and trying to get an understanding of what it means and how it is used.
It was just mentioned on this thread awhile back, and so I was using it to try and understand. Dog breeding is very different in many ways, and that is what I am knowledgeable about. When I got started in my breed, I gathered info from lots of breeders, but when it came to my origianl breeding I definitly used the guidence of my dogs breeder, as they were my biggest mentor, and knew more about how there lines worked, what seemed dominate and what was recessive.
I look forward to other thoughts on comments on this topic, but in all I enjoy reading and learning. Maybe I need to find a good book on breeding chickens.
Kris
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I too, grew up with show dogs. My mother had Irish Setters and was very successful with her line. Jerry Foley is a fabulous mentor. You'll have excellent birds to start with. Hel'll be honest with you about what aspects of the partridge that need improving in his opinion. He and Rebecca wanted to phase out their blue and black wyandottes to focus on other varieties; so I bought all of their stock. I am pleased beyond words that they trusted me with their many years of hard work.
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No doubt I will be asking lots of questions, as it is best to learn from that breeder, who has the best knowledge of their birds. WHat I am trying to understand is this pullet roo cockeral roo idea. (or is that cockeral hen) I have read about it in other posts, and trying to get an understanding of what it means and how it is used.
It was just mentioned on this thread awhile back, and so I was using it to try and understand. Dog breeding is very different in many ways, and that is what I am knowledgeable about. When I got started in my breed, I gathered info from lots of breeders, but when it came to my origianl breeding I definitly used the guidence of my dogs breeder, as they were my biggest mentor, and knew more about how there lines worked, what seemed dominate and what was recessive.
I look forward to other thoughts on comments on this topic, but in all I enjoy reading and learning. Maybe I need to find a good book on breeding chickens.
Kris
In order to answer you questions they are best posed to the Foley's specifically in this case.
Some Double mate thier Birds one line for good males (Male Line) and one line for good Females (Female line) now within these two in slow maturing breeds it can be even further broken Down if they show well under 12 Months they are then either a cockrell or Pullet Line, and if they are better over the age of 12 months they are Hen, Cock Line.
Or you can Single mate your line which can upon constant long term selection produce good amles and females this possible in some colors and not so good with others. neither will work if you change the selection criteria.
No doubt I will be asking lots of questions, as it is best to learn from that breeder, who has the best knowledge of their birds. WHat I am trying to understand is this pullet roo cockeral roo idea. (or is that cockeral hen) I have read about it in other posts, and trying to get an understanding of what it means and how it is used.
It was just mentioned on this thread awhile back, and so I was using it to try and understand. Dog breeding is very different in many ways, and that is what I am knowledgeable about. When I got started in my breed, I gathered info from lots of breeders, but when it came to my origianl breeding I definitly used the guidence of my dogs breeder, as they were my biggest mentor, and knew more about how there lines worked, what seemed dominate and what was recessive.
I look forward to other thoughts on comments on this topic, but in all I enjoy reading and learning. Maybe I need to find a good book on breeding chickens.
Kris
In order to answer you questions they are best posed to the Foley's specifically in this case.
Some Double mate thier Birds one line for good males (Male Line) and one line for good Females (Female line) now within these two in slow maturing breeds it can be even further broken Down if they show well under 12 Months they are then either a cockrell or Pullet Line, and if they are better over the age of 12 months they are Hen, Cock Line.
Or you can Single mate your line which can upon constant long term selection produce good amles and females this possible in some colors and not so good with others. neither will work if you change the selection criteria.
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