Who all has barred bantams? I have been having miserable luck getting Dominique bantams going so I thought maybe it's a sign I should consider other barred/cuckoo bantam breeds. Is anyone shipping chicks or eggs?
The Wyandotte Thread
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Lots of carzy hard work
I am curious also.Are they the blue version of golden laced?I would think the usual blue genetics would be at work.Does blue laced yield golden laced and a splash version?
I have a question about egg coloration. I recently noticed that 2 of my LF partridge wyandotte hens lay very light colored eggs. Still a brown color but at a glace could be mistaken as white.They are pure breed with Paul blood lines. The other hen I have that is from Foley lays the normal light brown eggs. The rooster I am using is also from Foley so I am guessing his genetics can correct this? Another person I had talked to had the same problem with one of their partridge hens (from different line). The birds type, coloration, etc represents the breed very well. I'm just curious what could play into the lighter colored eggs?
From the knowledge I have collected there are no blue versions of gold laced. Blue laced reds deal with a mahogany coloration versus the gold color in golden laced. Crossing these will more than likely put you back a few generations. For gold laced you would need to weed out the mahogany coloration and using only the black laced chicks. In Blue laced reds you will have to weed out the gold in the chicks as to not dilute of change the deep red BLR are known for. That is if you cross the two coloration's. Blue Laced reds come in blue, black, and splash but golden laced only come in black.
Thanks for the info.I was just wondering how they bred.Not wanting any projects.Just never ran across the info.
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How do you get a blue laced red wyandotte? What do I beed together to get blue laced red wyandotte? Please help!!!
BLRW's are their own breed. I believe they originated in Germany? They are very diffucult to maintain. You have to hatch a lot of chicks to get the ones closest to the proposed standard. With a lot of research, hard work, blood, sweat, tears, frustration, and time you can get some pretty nice birds!
Originally Posted by CP-FARM
How do you get a blue laced red wyandotte? What do I beed together to get blue laced red wyandotte? Please help!!!
BLRW's are their own breed. I believe they originated in Germany? They are very diffucult to maintain. You have to hatch a lot of chicks to get the ones closest to the proposed standard. With a lot of research, hard work, blood, sweat, tears, frustration, and time you can get some pretty nice birds!
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the mutations involved in blrw are blue (and black/splash happen too), mahogany, and lacing (made up of the pattern, melanizing and Columbian genes.)
it's not an easy and instant combination. you would spend generations getting the right color and pattern. and even longer perfecting the type, IMO.
you're better off starting with good stock from a reputable breeder. their breeder birds should NOT have an orangey or brassy color to them, the red should be a nice even deep mahogany shade (splash birds tend to be a bit lighter but still not orange). and you want the lacing to be a nice even thin edge that goes all the way around each feather. wide edges mean the bird may not breed true 100% of the time for *good* lacing.
the correct pattern is the one at the bottom right.
no, you do NOT want to use gold laced. otherwise you'll lose all the hard work that went into getting the mahogany nice and dark. IMO gold laced have a dilution involved to make the normal orange/red much lighter, more like a golden buff.
here's my trio... each has minor issues to be worked out, IMO, but I seriously doubt you'd find a perfect bird anywhere.
left is my black laced foley girl, middle my blue laced roo (foley x Canadian lines), right my splash laced girl (Canadian "import" of sorts).
IMO, my foley girl's biggest issue is her tail (too cochin-ish), the roo his comb and pale yellow legs and my splash girl... well there isn't much I don't like about her. LOL
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the mutations involved in blrw are blue (and black/splash happen too), mahogany, and lacing (made up of the pattern, melanizing and Columbian genes.)
it's not an easy and instant combination. you would spend generations getting the right color and pattern. and even longer perfecting the type, IMO.
you're better off starting with good stock from a reputable breeder. their breeder birds should NOT have an orangey or brassy color to them, the red should be a nice even deep mahogany shade (splash birds tend to be a bit lighter but still not orange). and you want the lacing to be a nice even thin edge that goes all the way around each feather. wide edges mean the bird may not breed true 100% of the time for *good* lacing.
the correct pattern is the one at the bottom right.
no, you do NOT want to use gold laced. otherwise you'll lose all the hard work that went into getting the mahogany nice and dark. IMO gold laced have a dilution involved to make the normal orange/red much lighter, more like a golden buff.
here's my trio... each has minor issues to be worked out, IMO, but I seriously doubt you'd find a perfect bird anywhere.
left is my black laced foley girl, middle my blue laced roo (foley x Canadian lines), right my splash laced girl (Canadian "import" of sorts).
IMO, my foley girl's biggest issue is her tail (too cochin-ish), the roo his comb and pale yellow legs and my splash girl... well there isn't much I don't like about her. LOL
Great information
WOW great information! Here is a roo I culled because of to thick of lacing. In your opinion what would the not breed true mean? What types would this guy throw that would not be good? I had 3 chicks come from him that I did not like and they almost looked partridge and had extremely poor lacing so that is why I culled him well that and because hes splash and I like to just keep blue and I was only keeping him for some experiments on other hens... And his body size didn't quiet make the cutthe mutations involved in blrw are blue (and black/splash happen too), mahogany, and lacing (made up of the pattern, melanizing and Columbian genes.)
it's not an easy and instant combination. you would spend generations getting the right color and pattern. and even longer perfecting the type, IMO.
you're better off starting with good stock from a reputable breeder. their breeder birds should NOT have an orangey or brassy color to them, the red should be a nice even deep mahogany shade (splash birds tend to be a bit lighter but still not orange). and you want the lacing to be a nice even thin edge that goes all the way around each feather. wide edges mean the bird may not breed true 100% of the time for *good* lacing.
the correct pattern is the one at the bottom right.
no, you do NOT want to use gold laced. otherwise you'll lose all the hard work that went into getting the mahogany nice and dark. IMO gold laced have a dilution involved to make the normal orange/red much lighter, more like a golden buff.
here's my trio... each has minor issues to be worked out, IMO, but I seriously doubt you'd find a perfect bird anywhere.
left is my black laced foley girl, middle my blue laced roo (foley x Canadian lines), right my splash laced girl (Canadian "import" of sorts).
IMO, my foley girl's biggest issue is her tail (too cochin-ish), the roo his comb and pale yellow legs and my splash girl... well there isn't much I don't like about her. LOL
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