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Think it's too cold for your chickens? Think again...

Im not sure about all this. Winter is making me pull my hair out.

The mentality of the original poster is the same Ive heard over and over and over in the months leading up to winter and I felt confident that my coop set up would be fine based on that info.
It seems that a small coop (ours has the floor space of half a sheet of plywood with perches and nestboxes) could hold 5 or more chickens fine and their body heat would keep the coop temp warmer than outside without insulation, so against my better judgement I built my coop smaller to appease this concept.

After our first snowfall and temps dropped to -20C, my coop thermometer read the same temp as the outside one and the chickens looked freezing, barely moving and staying perched and hunkered all day as apposed to leaving the coop to eat.
So after tarping and adding some caulking to potential heat loss areas, we tried again with no improvement.

SOOOOOO I was worried about their health and did some more reading around here and found an article that says you should infact give the chickens a larger space during the winter as their body heat WILL NOT heat a small space enough to make a difference.....larger space means not being locked inside a shoebox when large amounts of snow prevent roaming/ranging, etc This guy says give them a large non drafty non insulated building with lots of hay and shavings and a perch and they will be fine.
So I moved my girls into the dog shed, the size of a harden, with plastic and siding so no drafts but not insulated either. heated water dish, thats it.

Two days ago we get another storm, temp drops to -30c. I check on the chickens in the AM and they are all perched on the ground in the shavings instead of on the perches, and all but one are refusing to stand. Wont make their way to the food/water, just hunkered down cold as hell. Oh yeah, did I mention that they had icicles all over their faces and necks?

So I caved and bought a heat lamp, hung it over the perches. In minus 28C weather last night that lamp kept the whole shed at a comfy plus 3C and under the perch a toasty plus 10C. This AM they seem much happier.

I dont want the heater, but I fear they'll die otherwise.......what am I doing wrong? Is barely moving and icicles on the feathers normal for a non heated, non drafty uninsulated coop in -30C wheather?
 
KimKimWi... -30C is a heck of a lot colder than -0F, at that point it probably isn't going to hurt them to give them some heat.

We've had -10F here in MT recently (a little colder than your -20C). When I went out to my very old shed/coop (re: 40+ year old, uninsulated, well ventilated) all my birds were at the door waiting for some water and scratch. My breeds include production red (hatchery RIR and New Hampshire Red), California white, Wyandotte, Brahma, Jersey Giant & Barred Rock. One of my Brahmas is starting a heavy molt and even she seemed perfectly fine on that cold morning (other nights have been well below freezing though not quite so cold).

My chickens will stay inside the coop for a few days if there is a bunch of fresh snow, but they usually end up bored and going outside eventually. I always keep the food and water in the coop--never know if something would happen to prevent me from getting out to opening the door for them--but they would never be locked OUT of the coop.

ETA: I'm not saying your chickens didn't have the reaction to cold you say they had, but rather I would be concerned about your particular breeds or perhaps something else (not acclimatized and sudden cold, illness, excessive drafts, excessive humidity, etc)
 
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Over the weekend we had some really cold weather, but in the barn it didn't get below 40 degrees. My chicks who are about 6 weeks old and are fully feathered are starting to crowd, even though they have more than enough room and fresh bedding. Any advice on what to do would be very much appreciated
 
Hmm, icicles at -20 mean that you have a serious humidity problem. Not knowing your coop details, can't say any more that that and in a pinch with them behaving like that something likely did have to be done.

Scott
 
Im not sure about all this. Winter is making me pull my hair out.

The mentality of the original poster is the same Ive heard over and over and over in the months leading up to winter and I felt confident that my coop set up would be fine based on that info.
It seems that a small coop (ours has the floor space of half a sheet of plywood with perches and nestboxes) could hold 5 or more chickens fine and their body heat would keep the coop temp warmer than outside without insulation, so against my better judgement I built my coop smaller to appease this concept.

After our first snowfall and temps dropped to -20C, my coop thermometer read the same temp as the outside one and the chickens looked freezing, barely moving and staying perched and hunkered all day as apposed to leaving the coop to eat.
So after tarping and adding some caulking to potential heat loss areas, we tried again with no improvement.

SOOOOOO I was worried about their health and did some more reading around here and found an article that says you should infact give the chickens a larger space during the winter as their body heat WILL NOT heat a small space enough to make a difference.....larger space means not being locked inside a shoebox when large amounts of snow prevent roaming/ranging, etc This guy says give them a large non drafty non insulated building with lots of hay and shavings and a perch and they will be fine.
So I moved my girls into the dog shed, the size of a harden, with plastic and siding so no drafts but not insulated either. heated water dish, thats it.

Two days ago we get another storm, temp drops to -30c. I check on the chickens in the AM and they are all perched on the ground in the shavings instead of on the perches, and all but one are refusing to stand. Wont make their way to the food/water, just hunkered down cold as hell. Oh yeah, did I mention that they had icicles all over their faces and necks?

So I caved and bought a heat lamp, hung it over the perches. In minus 28C weather last night that lamp kept the whole shed at a comfy plus 3C and under the perch a toasty plus 10C. This AM they seem much happier.

I dont want the heater, but I fear they'll die otherwise.......what am I doing wrong? Is barely moving and icicles on the feathers normal for a non heated, non drafty uninsulated coop in -30C wheather?
Sounds like a humidity problem to me. When I left a heated water bowl in my coop I got water crystals everywhere(only left it there for 1 night).I now removed the heated dish from the coop, as they don't drink in the dark ( I do not light) and it is out side under the coop. My birds go out everyday. Yes I do lots of shoveling, but they like to get out. I live in upstate NY and do not heat. Sorry to hear that you are having problems....
 
Hmm, icicles at -20 mean that you have a serious humidity problem. Not knowing your coop details, can't say any more that that and in a pinch with them behaving like that something likely did have to be done.
Scott

I missed the part about icicles. Definitely a humidity problem. I suggest taking stock of how well ventilated your coop is.

I currently don't have a heater for the water, I just refill it in the morning and check on it a few times through the day.
 
Over the weekend we had some really cold weather, but in the barn it didn't get below 40 degrees. My chicks who are about 6 weeks old and are fully feathered are starting to crowd, even though they have more than enough room and fresh bedding. Any advice on what to do would be very much appreciated

Mine went out to the coop when they were 4 weeks old, they wouldn't stay down in the bathtub anymore except at night. They crammed together at night and that was JULY. Twenty seven feet of roost and they were using maybe 2'. They still cram together in 2 or 3 groups (except for that one odd time when they were all lined up pretty much equally spaced) only now they have to fuss about who gets to sit next to who. The bigger ones will walk over the smaller ones, the smaller ones will try to push under the bigger ones to get by. It is funny and sad at the same time. Since they are bigger now, they must be using a whole 6' of roost at night. That's 6" per bird!

I think the crowding when it isn't cold is just a natural "comfort" thing. As it get colder, it is a "warmer if ya got a girl on either side" thing.

Bruce
 
I don't want the heater, but I fear they'll die otherwise.......what am I doing wrong? Is barely moving and icicles on the feathers normal for a non heated, non drafty uninsulated coop in -30C weather?

Non drafty doesn't mean a nearly airtight box. I can see thinking the chickens can heat it better if it is small and semi air tight. As others said, if you have moisture freezing in the coop, there is too much moisture, therefore a lack of ventilation.

Look at some of the coop designs. You'll want some air vents at the top, above the roost, for the moist air to escape and some way for replacement air to get in the coop without blowing on the chickens on the roost. I don't remember if it was this thread or another but there was a coop that was entirely open on one side. There is no draft because it is tight on the other three sides and the roof. The wind doesn't blow through because there is nowhere for it to go, the back pressure keeps the drafts out. A great example of ventilated but not drafty.

As for general size, I think 4x4 for 5 birds, the space including the nest box(s), food and water is pretty small if they have nowhere else to go when they are not sleeping. My girls rarely go in their coop during the day except to eat and drink.

Bruce
 

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