Think it's too cold for your chickens? Think again...

Twister,

Thanks oodles for all of your answers.

I would never have thought of using cinder block and pavers since I think of concrete as super cold. I have used sheets of wood under the waterers to help insulate from the ground.

Hummmm

I have had my waterers in my shed part, and it has a dirt floor, uninsulated walls with lots of open wire areas. I didn't want any water in the coop, to help the coop stay cleaner, dryer, and less humidity.

Twister, I love having a new thing to think about and figure out, so I am super happy you took the time to take those pictures so that I cold understand exactly how you set it up. As I said before, I am changing almost everything about my setup this summer, so the more ideas I have to think about, the better.

The big differences between our set-ups that might cause me problems is that
1. I would need a much bigger waterer, and a taller one might have lots more trouble staying thawed.
2. I would like to keep the water in the shed and not put it in the coop because of the cleanliness and humidity issues
3. My shed is cold and kind of drafty

On my long list of things this summer, one is to greatly reduce the problems with the shed:
1. Improve the drainage by digging down and putting in impervious barrier all around the perimeter then adding lots of sand
2. Closing up all of the eave openings
3. Maybe closing up some of the wire openings
4. Putting in a high poop shelf and a perch in the roof area
5. Maybe maybe maybe insulating the roof (not sure about that, since it would cut down so much on my perch space)
6. Putting in a sunbathing shelf

Oh, and I tend to have lots more chickens, like 30ish.
 
Minnesota here hit -20 a few times last winter. I'm changing up my system, too. I plan to copy what my friend successfully does, which is to keep one of those rubber bowls with a birdbath heater in it. I'll rotate two. I plan to keep it in the run rather than the coop. Last winter during those cold snaps I made 3 and 4 trips out to the coop daily because I couldn't keep the water from freezing. I had the cinderblock with lightbulb setup. The bottom tray of water didn't freeze very often, but it got solid in the holding tank and couldn't descend. I liked how clean it was so that's how I'm doing it this summer (no bulb) but in the winter I have to find a better way! I was considering the 5 gal bucket with a birdbath heater inside and the lid loosely set on top and then screwing spigots in...like these
http://www.cornerstone-farm.com/equipment/poultry-float-valve-226
300_drinker.jpg

pretty inexpensive and solves the fowl (foul) water problem
 
Personally, since I have had trouble keeping my water from freezing, I simply do NOT see how the water wouldn't freeze in the tiny spigot thing.

My big problem is that I DO have power outages off and on throughout the winter. So, everything simply is going to freeze solid. I need a setup so that when the power comes back on, it all thaws without a problem, and nothing has busted.
 
Minnesota here hit -20 a few times last winter. I'm changing up my system, too. I plan to copy what my friend successfully does, which is to keep one of those rubber bowls with a birdbath heater in it. I'll rotate two. I plan to keep it in the run rather than the coop. Last winter during those cold snaps I made 3 and 4 trips out to the coop daily because I couldn't keep the water from freezing. I had the cinderblock with lightbulb setup. The bottom tray of water didn't freeze very often, but it got solid in the holding tank and couldn't descend. I liked how clean it was so that's how I'm doing it this summer (no bulb) but in the winter I have to find a better way! I was considering the 5 gal bucket with a birdbath heater inside and the lid loosely set on top and then screwing spigots in...like these
http://www.cornerstone-farm.com/equipment/poultry-float-valve-226
300_drinker.jpg

pretty inexpensive and solves the fowl (foul) water problem
I just ordered these cups too (tried last year but they were sold out on back order and I needed something sooner). I didn't think about taping directly into a bucket with them. I think I'm going to have to give very serious consideration to that.

CG
 
WOW thanks for the heads up--I better not wait until fall to order some!

I got a call from the Randal Burkey company about how they are back order right now but should have them in by next week. I'm willing to wait. Last year, (different company) they didn't know when they'd get them in so I went to plan B.

You might want to call around to various places that sell them so you can see if they have any in stock (or plan to replace soon) before you give them your money. You might find someone that has them and get them in before I do.

CG
 
Are you putting them on a bucket or pvc? Which mounting brackets are you getting? They have the drink cups I want but it's a pack of five...I guess that's okay. I was only going to get 3. The mounting brackets are sold separately so it might get pricier than I thought...
 
So $20 for the cups and $15 for the mounting brackets. I have a five gallon bucket already. I still need a birdbath heater, which is about $15 if I remember correctly. $50 is kind of alot for an experiment...
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If you are doing the direct from bucket, you don't need the mounting bracket do you? Since I don't have them yet, I'm not sure how they attach to bucket or pipe.

And the birdbath heater can wait a couple of months.

And I figured that I would used fewer cups too, but that would make it easy for me to clean them. All I have to do is swap out dirty for clean, and take the dirty cups in the house for bleaching.

CG
 
Good idea! I like the swap out idea. I think you do need mounting brackets, though. Wall ones if you use a bucket and pipe ones for pvc (which would freeze, defeating the purpose). Anybody else use this method? Do we need mounting brackets?
 

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