This just makes me sick!

[rebelcowboysnb]

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I do have to ask..... How many homes have you volunteered to put out? How many hours a week do you spend working on old equipment when you could be home with your family?

These people are doing a full time job that they should be payed for but they are paying out of pocket to do it. They made a hard choice. One only they could make. My opinion, no one but them has any right to second guess them.

 

[chickened]

firefighter
Definition
fire·fight·er[ fr ftər ]fire·fight·ers Plural

NOUN
1. somebody who puts out fires: somebody who attempts to control or extinguish fires, and to rescue people or animals from danger


duty
Definition
du·ty[ dtee ]du·ties Plural

NOUN
1. obligation: something that somebody is obliged to do for moral, legal, or religious reasons
"your duties as a parent"
2. need to meet obligations: the urge to meet moral or religious obligations
"a strong sense of duty"
3. allocated task: a task or service allocated to somebody, especially in the course of work


This is just going in circles.

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

While your dictionary out ya might want to look up the word VOLUNTEER.

 

[hemet dennis]

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So they volunteer for a fee of $75.00

 

[chickened]

Volunteers are not above the law, they maybe should have researched a little more of what was involved in being a volunteer fireman, it is not about fellowship but being there to help those that cannot help themselves. They are called to and depended upon to help you not come watch a fire and tell you you are bad because you did not pay for whatever reason.

I have heavy equipment and fully know what it costs to operate and maintain them. I am on the Oregon Department of Forestry's' call list of operators for forest fires and have worked on some of the largest forest fires in Oregon and I assure you we put fires out not watch them for financial reasons. I work about 60 to 70 hours a week in my business and then at night when needed I fix them. The biggest joke is watching local volunteers run or leave a forest fire when it crowns, have you ever worked a crowning fire? had to run when the wind switched, cut down burning snags that are 200' tall with hot embers landing on you or someone spraying you with a hose to keep you from burning while cutting? I have done these things and am still alive and when I hear about some firemen sitting watching a house burn for 75 dollars of unpaid fees I have no excuse or way to defend that action as I view it as a different issue than the people not paying. Punishment for not paying is an enforcement issue not something you decide when there is a fire.
Volunteer positions are usually used as a way to get hired into a paid position around my part of the country. Very few volunteers stay.

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I do have to ask..... How many homes have you volunteered to put out? How many hours a week do you spend working on old equipment when you could be home with your family?

These people are doing a full time job that they should be payed for but they are paying out of pocket to do it. They made a hard choice. One only they could make. My opinion, no one but them has any right to second guess them.

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

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So they volunteer for a fee of $75.00

They volunteer to the city they live. The city charges $75 per house for its equipment outside the city.

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

I am a trained wild land firemen. I have worked fires of all kinds in several states with all levels of financing. I can assure you that working for a state that has unlimited funds an working for a broke town are completely different things.

 

[hemet dennis]

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So they volunteer for a fee of $75.00

They volunteer to the city they live. The city charges $75 per house for its equipment outside the city.

So when the equipment goes outside the city the home owner uses it to put out their fire ??

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

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They volunteer to the city they live. The city charges $75 per house for its equipment outside the city.

So when the equipment goes outside the city the home owner uses it to put out their fire ??

The firemen had no issue with fighting the fire from what I understand. The city made the rules that that they have to follow. Or thats my understanding.

 

[chickened]

I would really like to know the difference because putting out a fire usually saves money.
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