Thought I was getting Black Copper Marans...but....

[3riverschick]

So if she breeds the blue to the black, she'll get Splash Marans? Am I right ?Karen

 

[Leighe]

So if she breeds the blue to the black, she'll get Splash Marans? Am I right ?Karen

What????? Awww geez.....I have SO MUCH TO LEARN! I need to start thinkin of chickens like my cattle. If I breed my Black Angus bull to my Hereford cow, they'll produce a white faced angus. Gotta learn my chickens though. Is Lavender Splash the same as Splash?

 

[3riverschick]

I don't know. I just breed light Sussex. I don't know how these color combinations work. but you might ask chooksman or there's a "Marans breeding to the international standard SOP " thread on byc . Chooksman hangs out there a lot and so do a lot of other Marans breeders. so that would be where I would go to ask that question.
Karen

 

[Leighe]

I don't know. I just breed light Sussex. I don't know how these color combinations work. but you might ask chooksman or there's a "Marans breeding to the international standard SOP " thread on byc . Chooksman hangs out there a lot and so do a lot of other Marans breeders. so that would be where I would go to ask that question.
Karen

Thanks Karen! I didn't know that forum was here. Will head over there and read and glean some knowledge.

 

[bullets]

So if she breeds the blue to the black, she'll get Splash Marans? Am I right ?Karen

Breed the blue and the black will not product splash chicks. In order to get splash you will need 2 copies of blue. Here is a chart that helps to understand blue genetics

 

[Leighe]

Breed the blue and the black will not product splash chicks. In order to get splash you will need 2 copies of blue. Here is a chart that helps to understand blue genetics

Thanks @bullets! I made a copy of the chart. Will come in handy. So a question....all Black Copper Marans and Blue Marans (if thats what the others turn out to be) lay dark chocolate or dark brown eggs, yes?

 

[kitkat5505]

your Black copper chick has a great body type but too much of a parasitic White .
he look cockerel to me and I like the way he stand

love to see some more photos of him/her .

BCM chicks should be black with a white just on the bottom part of they body , tip on they wing and chest area ..
better if they have a pure black face NO white at all

chooks man

This is her today at 14 weeks.

 

[kcrandall]

Thanks @bullets! I made a copy of the chart. Will come in handy. So a question....all Black Copper Marans and Blue Marans (if thats what the others turn out to be) lay dark chocolate or dark brown eggs, yes?

Leighe,

The answer to your question is both yes and no. In order to be considered a true Marans, regardless of color variety, a Marans Hen must lay a minimum #4 colored egg or better on the Marans Egg Color Chart. Anything less than #4 the hen is not considered a true Marans even though her parentage is Marans. When a Pullet first starts to lay collect her first 30 eggs, record the color of each egg then take the average to determine what color egg she consistently lays. Remember that a Marans Hen egg color will lighten naturally during a complete laying cycle but should never fall below a #4.

Dark Egg Genetics in Marans is very complicated and generally the least understood part of the Marans. What is known is that there are more than a dozen genes involved in Marans Dark Egg Genetics and both the Rooster and Hen carry these genes and are equally important in a breeding program. We can see in the Marans Hen if she carries dark egg genetics based on the color of her eggs. However, since the Rooster does not lay eggs it's much harder to determine if he carries dark egg genetics. You can test a Marans Rooster by mating him to a white egg layer such as a leghorn. If the pullets from this mating lay a tinted egg then he carries the dark egg genetics. Also, if a Rooster is hatched from a dark egg then he likely carries the dark egg genetics but the only way to truly know is to test mate as previously indicated.

Also the concentration of the dark egg genetics varies from Marans to Marans which is why some hens lay #4 dark egg and another lays a #8 dark egg. There are a lot of great articles on Maran Eggs genetics on the various U.S. and French Marans Clubs websites that give a much more detailed and technical explanation.

Take Care,
Keith

 

[Chooks man]

This is her today at 14 weeks.
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he look s good at 14 weeks of age
love his long back and pointed tail .

that all what I can see from this photo

chooks man

 

[Chooks man]

So if she breeds the blue to the black, she'll get Splash Marans? Am I right ?Karen

you are alright Karen

chooks man