Tiagard in food

[GothamGirl85]

What is the ratio for tiagard when added to food? I have a hen with respiratory issues. Through hot sauce, and her own personal vendetta against another hen, I was able to keep her stable until the tia gard came. I added it to water with juice BUT I am not 100% that she is drinking THAT water. I can't keep her away from snowmelt and I can't get my hands on a syringe at the moment. Water also freezes at night and I don't know how that effects the meds. I was thinking of adding it to food such as baked beans, rice, or oatmeal. If I do this what is the ratio?

 

[Eggcessive]

Tiagard and Denagard 12.5% tastes bad. It is normally given in the water. You could give it orally or if she will eat it, in a very small amount of food. That is 0.09 ml per pound according to the thread below. Read post 3 below for info about directly dosing the chicken:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/denagard-12-5-dosage-help.1419169/

 

[GothamGirl85]

Tiagard and Denagard 12.5% tastes bad. It is nirmally given in the water. You could give it orally or if she will eat it, in a very small amount of food. Read post 3 below for info about directly dosing the chicken:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/denagard-12-5-dosage-help.1419169/

The problem with direct dosing is she has learned that's what I'm up to from when I gave her hot sauce, her symptoms are less severe but obviously it isn't as good as meds, and I don't have help to administer it or syringe. My ability to leave the house is limited. I saw the dilution charts but they are all for water and not watery food.

Thank you.

 

[nuthatched]

The problem with direct dosing is she has learned that's what I'm up to from when I gave her hot sauce, her symptoms are less severe but obviously it isn't as good as meds, and I don't have help to administer it or syringe. My ability to leave the house is limited. I saw the dilution charts but they are all for water and not watery food.

Thank you.

Why did you give her hot sauce???

 

[Eggcessive]

The problem with direct dosing is she has learned that's what I'm up to from when I gave her hot sauce, her symptoms are less severe but obviously it isn't as good as meds, and I don't have help to administer it or syringe. My ability to leave the house is limited. I saw the dilution charts but they are all for water and not watery food.

Thank you.

In your case, I would just give it orally 0.09 ml per pound. If she weighs 3 pounds, that would be 0.27 ml, or 5 pounds, 0.45 ml which is a very minute amount. It might be better to let her drink and eat before each dose. Tylosin powder is another antibiotic added to water 1 tsp per gallon used to treat MG in chickens. That might be better tolerated.

 

[GothamGirl85]

In your case, I would just give it orally0.09 ml per pound. If she weighs 3 pounds, that would be 0.27 ml, or 5 pounds, 0.45 ml which is a very minute amount. It might be better to let her drink and eat before each dose. Tylosin powder is another antibiotic added to water 1 tsp per gallon used to treat MG in chickens. That might be better tolerated.

Thank you. Luck allowed me to get a syringe. ....

People at tractor supply had never heard of giving a chicken hot sauce but had heard of giving chickens cayenne pepper. I thought it was obvious because it was little pack you could tear with one hand as you hold the chicken with the other. All this to say, I want meds in sauce packs!

 

[GothamGirl85]

Why did you give her hot sauce???

This is a fair question. I genuinely thought she was gonna die and wanted to give her something to work up her strength. She was not eating or drinking, this has since changed, and I did try normal stuff first. My hot sauce packets contain cayenne pepper and a bit of sugar. I had no syringe and the packets were easy to administer. Her poop is normal and her comb looks better but she still gasps and hot sauce isn't meds. I never thought this would cure her but I wanted something to keep her ALIVE. I was working with my pantry.

The next day she was back to eating and drinking and her poop was normal. Hot sauce and the hatred she has for specific hen kept her alive. Hopefully the meds will do the rest because she is wise to me coming near her.

 

[nuthatched]

This is a fair question. I genuinely thought she was gonna die and wanted to give her something to work up her strength. She was not eating or drinking, this has since changed, and I did try normal stuff first. My hot sauce packets contain cayenne pepper and a bit of sugar. I had no syringe and the packets were easy to administer. Her poop is normal and her comb looks better but she still gasps and hot sauce isn't meds. I never thought this would cure her but I wanted something to keep her ALIVE. I was working with my pantry.

The next day she was back to eating and drinking and her poop was normal. Hot sauce and the hatred she has for specific hen kept her alive. Hopefully the meds will do the rest because she is wise to me coming near her.

Ah, ok.
She can't taste spicey so just being manhandled has her skittish. Towels help.

 

[Eggcessive]

If you need to give a boost or a rescue treatment in the future, mix a cup of water with 1/2 tsp of sugar and a tiny pinch of salt, and you have some home made electrolytes. Most feed stores also sell tonics such as Poultry NutriDrench. They normally sell syringes without needles, needles, and every pharmacy will give you a needle less 1 ml syringe free, or a 5 ml syringe for giving meds to babies can be found near the pharmacy to buy.

 

[GothamGirl85]

If you need to give a boost or a rescue treatment in the future, mix a cup of water with 1/2 tsp of sugar and a tiny pinch of salt, and you have some home made electrolytes. Most feed stores also sell tonics such as Poultry NutriDrench. They normally sell syringes without needles, needles, and every pharmacy will give you a needle less 1 ml syringe free, or a 5 ml syringe for giving meds to babies can be found near the pharmacy to buy.

I did make her something similar but she wasn't drinking it, eating the hardboiled egg, and her poop and comb was worrisome. Then when she was stable the meds were VERY late so I was still giving her hot sauce because she wasn't dead. I didn't know what was keeping her alive. We had real winter show up so I made an oregano honey tea, added other spices to the group feed, a kittle dog food, and some other things I don't recall. Plus she really hates this hen that humbled her on her first bad night. Hatred of another hen is also not antibiotics. I have the syringe but because I could add it to the drinking water and she is decent at running from me I thought this would work best. I was wrong.

I did buy something that was next to rooster booster but it's a feed topper. I thought it was a liquid. Gonna wait till she is done with meds before adding it