Time for a gun...help me choose the right one?

[Bear Foot Farm]

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It was implied you can't learn to shoot accurately with anything but a single shot, and I hear that line a lot

 

[Shawnee_b]

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It was implied you can't learn to shoot accurately with anything but a single shot, and I hear that line a lot

Bear Foot. There are some can control the urge not to spray and pray, good for you. I learned it, first a single shot then a bolt and 5 shot mag. I like to rip, but I don't hunt with semis. I have also built and owned full autos built for military and police demos, got my fill and bills for ammo!

A few but not all can't resist the urge to not aim or hold as well as they could because they have a mag of followup shots. Because you learned and can doesn't mean everyone else can or will even attempt to LEARN that. I haven't taken any youths out to shoot yet who doesn't turn to dumping rounds in a very short time no matter what or how they are taught unless I give them a single shot. Start with a single shot, learn to shoot then advance to a semi. Did you begin with a semi???

Put anyone behind the wheel of a boss 351 mustang muscle car and what do you suppose he is going to do?

Now the fact part. Fixed breech, bolt, pump, lever ARE both more accurate inherently AND more powerful. Fact and proven.

Any semi is either blowback, delayed blowback, gas operated by a piston, op rod or gas. This process of cycling the bolt or slide begins with the bullet still in the barrel. Recoil and or gas pressure is used to cycle reducing the force behind the projectile. Resulting in changes during the recoil cycle affecting accuracy more or less in different designs. Want testing proof?

US Military. All weapons are tested more extensive than anyone can imagine.

One result is determined "max effective range" .

1903A3 springfield 30-06 bolt action. Max effective range = 1000 yards
M1 Garand 30-06 semi auto. Max effective range = 600 yards.
Same exact bullet? How come? Gas operated non fixed breech VS fixed breech.

 

[Shawnee_b]

I am impressed with a shotgun slug that can be used to shoot a deer at 150 yards. I would not even attempt to shoot at something that far away with a shotgun and open sights. I suppose some people put scopes on shotguns, but that seems silly to me. I would just buy a rifle instead of a scope.

When I was a kid we had a .410 shotgun. It was alright for birds and small game. But I think a person is better off getting a 20- or 12-guage shotgun. My grandfather always used a 16-guage, and that was fine, but the ammunition is harder to find and more expensive now than the more common rounds. My father liked the 28-guage for dove and quail.

Look in the shooting mags, NRA mags, look like promising slugs. I don't scope or use shotguns for distance either. I agree, it's nuts but some states have no choice. In KY we can use anything, we can even hunt with silencers. Think GA just passed that too.

I love 28 ga. Only have one, a single but it's a great small game gun and so light to carry. Like to get a nice OE or SXS to try on skeet. Of skeet, trap and sporting clays I like skeet the best. And have a 410 single for the heck of it. Good snake gun for the coop, doesn't blow nest boxes to the moon like GF did with her 12! She has a 410 and I asked her why the 12, "I wanted to be sure to get it" and she did... I carry CCI snake loads in both a 38 snub and a compact 9mm, very effective too. Yes they actually cycle a semi well, made in 9, 40 and 45 and of course 22/22m, 38, 45lc. Snake season I am not without shot in a pistole

 

[chickychick1]

Last fall I found a possum sleeping in the chicken coop. He must have crawled into the coop early evening and got locked in when we closed the front doors at night. I went to get the eggs next morning and found him curled up in the nest box. He napped all day and wouldn't get out until night time. I left the rear door open, front door shut, chickens safe in the run. No harm done.

 

[Bullitt]

He probably ate some eggs, right?

 

[chickychick1]

Most likely, no eggs that day. Or the chickens were so scared to be sleeping with an opossum- they may have been scared eggless.

 

[mohillbilly]

It's funny. I've been shooting for best part of 62 years and I've never had a training course of any kind.

I second that... been 50 years here and no training course ...other than being given 1 bullet and expected to bring back one animal with it or kill one with a rock to get my next bullet

 

[mohillbilly]

I keep a .30-06 by the door to dispatch of predators

and I thought I was the only one that keeps his 30-06 by the door.

 

[chigger bait]

Nope, at the moment there is a BAR next to the fire place with a mag full of 165 grain ballistic tips on the mantel piece.

"Stuff" happens and jack needs to be tore up...sometimes.

Boogers and things that go bump in the night need attended to.

The wife sends me out to walk point.

The dogs may get hurt.

I know where I stand in the food chain.

 

[Jeffross1968]

Ok, here's a newbie question....why use a shotgun for turkey? Don't you then have to spend an hour picking out lead?