Tips To Help You When Posting Questions About Your Poult Or Turkey

[kuntrygirl]

Thanks kountry girl you have been a real big help.

You are every welcome. Anytime.

 

[NewbeeDoo]

Yes, it is possible. Especially if they have a spike in their growth. The legs aren't able to handle the weight. I think you mentioned something about "rigging" something up to help him. If you know me, I will "rig up"or "create" anything to make it work for my animals. Just think about what you would need to "apply" to him to allow him to still be a mobile but give his legs time, space and tools to get those legs going. Now after saying that, you should consider that it may be neurological and they won't ever go back to the way they were. If he ate something, he needs an activated charcoal/water combo to flush out all toxins. But I doubt that because you said he gobbled up his food. You can try a toxin cleanse. It' won't hurt him. If poison is not the problem, then he would have been cleansed with the charcoal. Make sure that he is eating and drinking. You need to cushion the area that he sitting down the most on. You don't want those to get irritated and swollen.

Let me know if you want to do the Podiatry/Physical/Leg Therapy route and we will see what we can do.

I think I figured it out! ...not that its good news...I checked on him this morning and unfortunately he's worse! He hasn't moved at all and his legs look contorted, kinda like sitting indian style but behind him, kinda tucked under his tail When I pulled him out, they just dragged out behind him and were shaking but he didn't have much function of them at all and didn't seem like he was in much pain from it either. I pulled him out into the grass for some sun and went to give him fresh water when a little toad crossed my path...my son has had such fun catching the little guys but I noticed this toad was a bit more develped than the ones we had been catching...then it hit me! They're Cane Toads! They've been breeding in all those standing puddles we've had!!! They'll kill a dog and even they're eggs and tadpoles are toxic even when dead! They cause paralysis in bad cases but I'm not sure if a turkey or chicken would be effected! If thats the case, I'm not sure turkey will make it but I'll keep you posted! I don't know if we should eat the turkey either! Any advice on that end? Thank you so much! I'm not sure I would have thought of it with all the probing questions! Starting to wonder if south FL is a good place for foul

 

[kuntrygirl]

Yes, it is possible. Especially if they have a spike in their growth. The legs aren't able to handle the weight. I think you mentioned something about "rigging" something up to help him. If you know me, I will "rig up"or "create" anything to make it work for my animals. Just think about what you would need to "apply" to him to allow him to still be a mobile but give his legs time, space and tools to get those legs going. Now after saying that, you should consider that it may be neurological and they won't ever go back to the way they were. If he ate something, he needs an activated charcoal/water combo to flush out all toxins. But I doubt that because you said he gobbled up his food. You can try a toxin cleanse. It' won't hurt him. If poison is not the problem, then he would have been cleansed with the charcoal. Make sure that he is eating and drinking. You need to cushion the area that he sitting down the most on. You don't want those to get irritated and swollen.

Let me know if you want to do the Podiatry/Physical/Leg Therapy route and we will see what we can do.

I think I figured it out! ...not that its good news...I checked on him this morning and unfortunately he's worse! He hasn't moved at all and his legs look contorted, kinda like sitting indian style but behind him, kinda tucked under his tail When I pulled him out, they just dragged out behind him and were shaking but he didn't have much function of them at all and didn't seem like he was in much pain from it either. I pulled him out into the grass for some sun and went to give him fresh water when a little toad crossed my path...my son has had such fun catching the little guys but I noticed this toad was a bit more develped than the ones we had been catching...then it hit me! They're Cane Toads! They've been breeding in all those standing puddles we've had!!! They'll kill a dog and even they're eggs and tadpoles are toxic even when dead! They cause paralysis in bad cases but I'm not sure if a turkey or chicken would be effected! If thats the case, I'm not sure turkey will make it but I'll keep you posted! I don't know if we should eat the turkey either! Any advice on that end? Thank you so much! I'm not sure I would have thought of it with all the probing questions! Starting to wonder if south FL is a good place for foul

OMG!!!!!! Seriously????? WOW!!! I didn't know that about Cane Toads. It's a good thing that you say that toad. Poor turkey. I'll have to do some research to see what I find out. I probably wouldn't eat it. There has to be something that you can give your turkey to reverse the toxins. Let me check. Poor little guy.

 

[kuntrygirl]

Does that little toad predator look like this?

Symptoms
Symptoms of exposure to cane toad toxin in dogs, cats and small animals can include drooling, shallow breathing, loss of coordination, fever, pawing at the mouth, red gums, vomiting, convulsions and twitching. The Animal Port website notes that cardiac arrest, or stopping of the heart, can occur as quickly as 15 minutes after exposure. Because the toxin could kill your pet in a matter of minutes, it’s important to take him to the veterinarian immediately after exposure to a cane toad.

Treatment
The first step in treating a pet exposed to cane toad toxin involves spraying water into his mouth and on his gums for five to 10 minutes to wash away as much toxin as possible. Your veterinarian might place your pet in cool water to regulate his temperature. Medication can help control changes in heart rhythm caused by the toxin and can help relieve pain. The Pet MD website advises that animals who receive treatment within 30 minutes after exposure have a good chance of recovery, but that the overall prognosis isn’t favorable for most animals.

The toad's poison is also dangerous to humans and deaths have occurred. Some adults have even been affected when they absorbed the poison through cuts in their skin after handling a toad.

Signs of Toad Poisoning

This is what you need to do if your pet is poisoned.

Due to its corrosive and irritant nature, the toad's venom will cause profuse salivation soon after your pet bites it. Pets affected by the irritant venom will paw their mouth due to the pain. If you see your pet drooling and distressed but haven't seen it attack a toad, look at its gums. If they are red and inflamed, toad poisoning is likely.

Vomiting often occurs, especially in cats. Cats also show hindquarter weakness and a fixed trance-like stare.

First Aid
First aid treatment includes irrigating (washing with a lot of water) the eyes, mouth and nose if they have been exposed to toad poison. Seek medical attention if symptoms persist. When handling any frog or toad, protect the eyes, wear gloves, and thoroughly wash hands before and after touching the animal.

Prognosis does not look good. :/

 

[NewbeeDoo]

Thank you so much! All my looking didn't turn up this info! I guess I'll have to put the turkey out sooner rather than later...I just feel bad that he's getting worse...hasn't been eating as much today either...Thanks and guess now I'll look into humane ways of euthanizing! You've really been such an encouragement and help! Thanks so much!

 

[kuntrygirl]

Thank you so much! All my looking didn't turn up this info! I guess I'll have to put the turkey out sooner rather than later...I just feel bad that he's getting worse...hasn't been eating as much today either...Thanks and guess now I'll look into humane ways of euthanizing! You've really been such an encouragement and help! Thanks so much!

You are very welcome. It angers and upsets me that a toad could have this type effect on a bird. As curious as a turkey is (and it could happen to any of mine), they always have to check out stuff and I guess this guy checked out the wrong thing.

I was being hopeful for the guy but you said that he's getting worse. I think we all know where that will lead. I know you have to do what you have to do.

Sorry that this couldn't turn out better. Poor baby.

 

[NewbeeDoo]

Yeah...it's been a bit of an irritating 4 months, we've dealt with lice, foul pox, coccidiosis and now this! It's really been crazy, but after seeing a bird suffer, I would definitely rather see it out of it's misery! It's been rough, but I'm learning soooooo much through it and the support from everyone on here has been so great! I don't think I'd have made it this far without every-ones help!
I just put turkey to sleep with a bowl of yogurt with asprin and vitamins and we'll see how he looks in the morning...I don't think his legs could recover function though, they look REALLY wonky! I just hope we can get the little crawlies under control...definitely have the chickens under wraps for a little while!

 

[kuntrygirl]

How is he doing today?

 

[NewbeeDoo]

No use of his legs at all so he was taken out of his misery yesterday So sad, he is the first one we've had to take out. I left the house completely...hopefully this will get easier with time to knoe what to do, we were considering raising broilers but I'm not sure...the worse part for me was the turkey was my sons favorite "chicken" and he handled him being gone much better than I thought he would! All normal again here today, just sad and kinda slow to let the chickens out to range now...

How is he doing today?

 

[kuntrygirl]

No use of his legs at all so he was taken out of his misery yesterday So sad, he is the first one we've had to take out. I left the house completely...hopefully this will get easier with time to knoe what to do, we were considering raising broilers but I'm not sure...the worse part for me was the turkey was my sons favorite "chicken" and he handled him being gone much better than I thought he would! All normal again here today, just sad and kinda slow to let the chickens out to range now...

How is he doing today?

is all I can say. I'm so sorry to hear about this but it was the right thing to do. We can't save them all. It took me A LONG time to learn that because I thought that I was "Captain Save Them All" but I quickly found out that I wasn't. I can't say that it will get easier. After 8 years, it still has not gotten easy for me. I still get emotional and cry like a baby when I lose one. We are human and we have feelings, so it's natural for us to feel the way that we do.

Even when we would take a ram to the butcher to be slaughtered, I would cry. They would tell me to go and sit in the truck until I pull it together. Can you picture a grown woman crying in the butcher's shop? It's not a pretty sight especially when customers are trying to purchase fresh meat. Now, I just stay at home. I don't even watch them catch and load up the ram. All I see is the meat that comes back. It's kinda easy to deal with but when I go outside and see that ram is missing, I feel sad.

So you're considering raising broilers? Good Luck. Those little fat furry feathered birds are soooooooooooooooooooooo cute. Especially when the waddle when they run. Try not to get attached. :/

I kept mine alive for 4 years but I wouldn't try that again. Too stressful when I went out to feed them and wondering who would be dead. However, I do want to raise some for the freezer but I will have to think long and hard about that.

I hope that you are ok over there.