"To help or not to help; that is the question"!

Rockythgr81

In the Brooder
5 Years
Jun 13, 2014
40
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Hyden, Kentucky
Hey guys looking for some advise here. I am in the process of hatching my second batch of eggs in the incubator. The first batch I had a 50% hatch. I had 21 eggs in the incubator and got 12 very healthy chicks that are still doing very well. The others I waited a couple days and they never did anything so, I threw them away.
This time however, I have a full incubator of 41. 22 have hatched over the past several days and seem very healthy they started hatching on the 20th of the month it is now the 23rd of the month. I have several other of the 41 that have started "pipping" and they seem to have given up, but I can see the egg "breathing". Then when I pick them up they start to struggle again. As I said, I have 22 that have hatched on their own very well, all though number 20 had been struggling for about 12 hours and only lacked a little to get out, so I took pity on her (I assume her until proven otherwise) and picked away a little of the shell to weaken it a little, then she finished it off about 1/2 hour later and she seems fine.
My question is this and it is two-fold. I know generally you are not supposed to help them and let nature take it's course because you get stronger chicks that way, but when they are very obviously trying for hours without success at what point is it okay to do what I did with number 20?
And the second part, how long do I wait before considering the ones that have not hatched a lost cause and throw them away? This is twice now I am at a 50% success, which in my humble opinion is not too bad for an amateur; however I would like to improve my success rate.
Any advise would be appreciated.
Thanks.
And, yes, both these batches of chicks are from eggs my own chickens that I raised from chicks themselves have laid.
 
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I have completely removed chick's from the egg . I never let a chicken actually die in the Shell. But I make sure all the yolk and veins are absorbed beforei help .
 
Agreed. Never rush in soon after pip, but if too much time passes without progress or you hear distress peeps, you may just save a life.

They may not all survive, but any increase is an increase.

I'd evaluate your incubation and hatching conditions for further improvements if that many chicks are struggling.
 
I always end up assist hatching with at least one chicken each hatch and even though i have assisted them i have never had long term problems. Other than a chicken i had named dud she had chicken down syndrome or something her whole body was sideways and i lost her at 2 years old and she never layer an egg
 
Sadly I think I may have waited to long to ask the question. I did just help another out, but I think at least two others have died in the shell, because when I start to peel it away there is no response at all and the others don't seem to be doing anything. How long should I wait before considering the others lost? Still 23, puts me over the 50% success threshold. Oh well, better luck next time.
Thanks for all the response so far.
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I consider incubation to be an artificial process. There are many opportunities for even a seasoned hatcher to make mistakes in the process, either knowing that the hatching environment has been less than prime, and also, simply because we don't have the finesse of a broody. Therefore, just as a woman who labors for a long time and is unable to give birth vaginally is provided with a C-section for benefit of both mother and baby, it makes sense to me to assist the chick who has made the external pip, but is not able to complete the hatch. That being said, I find that the longer I wait, and the less assistance I provide, the better the outcome. In other words, If the pip does not progress, I peel back a bit of shell to help with the pip. Sometimes, that's all that's needed. Any blood means stop for an extended time. IMO, most chicks that reach this point without advancing further are too big to maneuver, or are too dry to maneuver, or are malpositioned, and therefore can't maneuver.
 
I do agree with lazy gardener that I should give as little assistance as possible. I did just save one and one other has her beak out after I peeled away a little of the shell. One other, as I was peeling away the shell I saw a little blood; hope I didn't do more harm than good.
BTW I am originally from southern Maine, I miss it sometimes but am happy here in Kentucky.
 

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