Two Hens suddenly attacking almost everyone else...almost

bripms

In the Brooder
Apr 16, 2023
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I've got a sudden and intense issue with my flock.

For reference: 4 hens, 1 rooster, all together since hatch.

They are in a tractor style run in the yard that has an indoor and outdoor section and is 8ft by 2ft total. They have an auto filling waterer, plenty of food, and have not--to my knowledge--been bothered by and rodents or the like.

We live with 4 kids and 3 big dogs who all run and play in the yard but don't interact with or near the coop.

All the girls save one have stopped laying (they were born April 29 of this year, 2024)

Okay:

A few days ago I found my rooster cowering in a corner nearly beaten to death. Head completely bald, bloody, eye swollen shut, beak bleeding, feather pulled out all along his back. I took him to quail hospital in my house and let him rest for two days, he healed up great, the damage wasn't as bad as it seemed, and by the end of the day he was crowing in his little box.

Early on his second day of recovery I found a hen also cowering, frantic, refusing to go near the other 3 girls. When I pushed her into the open area with then, two of them descended on her, so I took her out and put her with Roo. They are sweet to each other and they hung out in the hospital easily. I put them both back in the next day and watched my largest hen attack him, immediately bloodied him again, so I yanked her out and put her in cardboard jail.

She's been there for a day, and now my coop is three gals and the roo.

One of the gals is roos girlfriend and she is being left mostly alone by the other birds but she panics if they come near her.

One of the gals is our resident escape artist and general basket case who has not been involved in a single instance of conflict.

The last remaining gal has taken up the agitator role to attack the rooster whenever she sees him.

We are planning to take roo out and put the nasty one back in to see if time out has chilled her out. If it has we'll put him in and see what happens.

I'm just wondering what would cause two hens to completely flip like this, and only target two of the birds.

It may be worth noting: main agitator is a speckly dark brown, secondary agitator is solid white, uninvolved party is black, the two targeted birds are both a blonde cinnamon color. We thought maybe they have a problem with the birds based on color?

I'm at a total loss, they have never had conflict before (other than the one trying to escape every time you open the hatch) and we have had happy girls and eggs every day since they were 7 weeks.

Other than eating two of them, we don't really have space to have a quail apartment to separate them.

Also, I have 33 babies in a brooder and a big aviary being built so they'll be integrated with a big flock in the near future.

Any advice?
 
Maybe there fighting for room? Pics of the coop and run would be good.
Do you notice those two being sick of any sorts?
If a chicken is sick, the flock will try to kill it so that they dont get sick. I dont think its a color issue...
I have a feeling this is happening due to space.
 
I believe they are quail. :D

I've had quail fight like that--randomly start attacking. I usually separate them, but try to keep them next to each other so they can chill out but not able to do any damage.

I would try to keep the hen to rooster ratio about 5 or 6 to 1--maybe the hens just were stressed from being overbred by the rooster. Or it could just be hormones. I would hope they would chill out after their breeding season comes to an end. Maybe try reducing their light and reintroducing them after that.
 
Maybe there fighting for room? Pics of the coop and run would be good.
Do you notice those two being sick of any sorts?
If a chicken is sick, the flock will try to kill it so that they dont get sick. I dont think its a color issue...
I have a feeling this is happening due to space.
I would be surprised if it was a space issue. 16 square feet of space for 5 quail puts them at more than three square feet per bird which is way above the suggested minimum.

They are much smaller than chickens. The largest is only slightly bigger than a grapefruit.
 
I would be surprised if it was a space issue. 16 square feet of space for 5 quail puts them at more than three square feet per bird which is way above the suggested minimum.

They are much smaller than chickens. The largest is only slightly bigger than a grapefruit.
Sounds good!
Although I have heard stories of people who have hens that start acting like roosters. Could that be it? Are you positive you only have one rooster?
 
Sounds good!
Although I have heard stories of people who have hens that start acting like roosters. Could that be it? Are you positive you only have one rooster?
I'm not 100%, although with five birds getting 4 eggs a day (sometimes three) I assumed, and since I've seen the one guy crow often and no one else, and I've seen him mount everyone else. I guess I'm assuming on some level.

Seems like one of the offending aggressive birds if highly possessive of the uninvolved one, and only freaks out if anyone gets close to her friend.
 
I'm not 100%, although with five birds getting 4 eggs a day (sometimes three) I assumed, and since I've seen the one guy crow often and no one else, and I've seen him mount everyone else. I guess I'm assuming on some level.

Seems like one of the offending aggressive birds if highly possessive of the uninvolved one, and only freaks out if anyone gets close to her friend.
Then your probably right lol!
Did chicken jail help?
Maybe you should separate the one she feels the need to guard over and see if that can get her use to not having her.
 

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