Tylan 50, SubQ or IM??

[casportpony]

I have been giving her vitamin drops with a needle less syringe but yesterday she seemed to aspirate slightly. Hence me trying to get ahead of the pneumonia. I know its important to get the drops back into her throat to prevent aspiration but I've yet to find a syringe to make that even remotely easy. I also think maybe thickening the vitamins with some mash may have helped but for now I'm avoiding trying to force feed anymore drops. I added the vitamins to her water and all six chicks can have some.

Is she large enough to take a 1ml syringe down her oesophagus into her crop?

 

[casportpony]

Here's some Tylan (tylosin) dosing info from Plumb's Veterinary Drug Handbook - 7th Edition

 

[casportpony]

More avian drug stuff here:
http://www.harrisonsbirdfoods.com/avmed/cam/09_therapeutic_agents.pdf

Online poultry books​

http://www.harrisonsbirdfoods.com/avmed/cam.html
Download the entire book (two volumes): Clinical Avian Medicine
(Large file - please allow several moments to download)

Another two book set:
http://www.harrisonsbirdfoods.com/avmed/chapters.html

Penn State Poultry Health Handbook
http://pubs.cas.psu.edu/freepubs/pdfs/agrs52.pdf

 

[Nicole95]

Thank you for the great resources! I do have a 1ml syringe but as far as her being big enough its pretty borderline. I don't want to push it too deep and hurt her (not like aspirating is better). I gave her the vitamins because she was having trouble walking, stumbling and falling over, and after lots and lots of homework I found the most likely cause to be a vitamin deficiency. Three days of poly vi sol drops and she does seem to be getting around better. I would like to keep giving her the vitamins but the dropper just isn't working well. Maybe I could find a smaller syringe. Or what do you think about just buying foods high in vitamins E and B for her?

 

[Nicole95]

This may sound a little crazy, but she loves worms and meal worms. What if I inject the vitamins into one of them? Haha oh my the things you think of doing to help a baby chick..

 

[casportpony]

That's a great idea, try it!

 

[weaversfarm]

I am currently using the Tylan50 on sick Black Copper Marans. Because I have never given shots to birds, I gave it orally. Seemed to work well and have not lost any of the ones I am treating or have treated.

 

[casportpony]

I believe the only injectable antibiotic that's commonly used for farm animals that can't or shouldn't be given orally is Penicillin G.

 

[weaversfarm]

I grew up on a farm and always used Penn G. on any sick animals, always as a series of shots. I read on another site where they give the first dose as a sq shot, the rest are given orally. I have been doing it orally now for years and never had any animal not get the full benefit of the penn G. I do the same with thing with wormers for goats, Bio Mycin, LA-200, Vitamin B Complex, Baytril, Banamine, basically everything is given orally after the first dose. I have done this with calves, goats and small pigs, haven't lost one yet.

 

[casportpony]

What I read is that the injectable Penicillin is not absorbed as well when given orally. Don't get me wrong, I am a huge fan of giving meds most meds orally to poultry. Banamine in horses, I give it IV or IM, always. Baytril for cats, always SC with a bolus of fluids.