Ugh little dogs

[fancbrd4me02]

Why blame the dog? It's not a dog problem, it's an owner who won't be responsible for training and managing the dog problem.

 

[Moxiechick]

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Agreed!

 

[littledel]

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there you go, get a big mean old rooster with long spurs and let the little furball chase him. Just have you video camera ready.

 

[littledel]

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Sorry, don't fully agree with this. yes, responsibility is on the owner, but most owners are fully aware of what their precious little turds are doing and they really just do not care. Telling Gramps is a good idea, but the only real way to stop the bad behavior on this is to either get rid of the dog (which may make Gramps mad) or separate the temptation. If it is on Gramps property, then you need to build a run for the chickens, if it is your property then the dog goes on a leash or in a kennel. I have had to deal with this very type of problem (relatives dogs chasing and killing my chickens) and it did not stop til I informed them that the next time I saw the dog around my chickens I would kill it. Lost 3 chickens to the mutt and made relatives mad, but dog stays home now!!!

 

[Moxiechick]

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Sorry, don't fully agree with this. yes, responsibility is on the owner, but most owners are fully aware of what their precious little turds are doing and they really just do not care. Telling Gramps is a good idea, but the only real way to stop the bad behavior on this is to either get rid of the dog (which may make Gramps mad) or separate the temptation. If it is on Gramps property, then you need to build a run for the chickens, if it is your property then the dog goes on a leash or in a kennel. I have had to deal with this very type of problem (relatives dogs chasing and killing my chickens) and it did not stop til I informed them that the next time I saw the dog around my chickens I would kill it. Lost 3 chickens to the mutt and made relatives mad, but dog stays home now!!!

So what part of what I said don't you agree with?

The responsibility is with the owner. Depending on who owns the property, this would fall on either the Grandmother who owns the dog, or the chicken owner.
Calling a dog a "little turd" is hardly constructive and reflects more on your attitude, than that of the dog. It is a dog. That is what they do unless trained otherwise by the owner. It is sad that you had to resort to threats before your relatives took the situation seriously, but that does not mean it is ok to inflict retribution on the dog, unless a bird is being directly attacked. It doesn't sound like the dog has made contact with a chicken... yet. Therefore it is up to the humans to separate the animals so that this cannot happen. It is totally the responsibility of the humans to preempt an attack.

 

[littledel]

I disagreed with shooting or getting rid of the dog is piling irresponsibility on top off irresponsiblity. You have to protect you flock, because you are their only real protection and it is not irresponsible to have to take a dog out if it is needed to protect the birds. Should never have to do this, but some dog owners just will not control their dogs. I had to approach my relatives THREE times to get their attention. and nothing was done until I threatened to take out fido if it came back. I hated it and wish it had never happened, but again you must protect your birds.

 

[Moxiechick]

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Well then I guess I disagree that this is the only method of protecting the flock. Sometimes talking with the dog owner works. There are alternatives other than what you suggest.

 

[littledel]

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Well then I guess I disagree that this is the only method of protecting the flock. Sometimes talking with the dog owner works. There are alternatives other than what you suggest.

OK, not going to keep this up. I am glad you have your opinion, but according to your signature no chickens yet. But at what point do you do the deed, when fido is carrying off your prize hen. This happened twice. Or when the owners think fido has been in a pen long enough and let him out and he comes back, or when fido had killed you last chicken. Believe me when I say I tried everything I knew to get them to keep the dog away. Even to the point of shoot a gun into the ground to run the dog off. He just came back a little later, more causious. But he came back. I am not some orge that enjoys shooting dogs, but I love my poultry and am very tired of people not controlling their animals, and the animal making multiple attacks on my property at my birds. Sometimes the alternative is doing the deed.

 

[Mrs. Green Thumbs]

We have a chihuahua, Ricky Recardo and he is curious about our chicks but we keep him away from them untill they are big enough to defend themselves if Ricky get's any ideas! But def we have a dog run set up that is ricky's yard and the rest is chicken territory!

 

[Moxiechick]

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Well then I guess I disagree that this is the only method of protecting the flock. Sometimes talking with the dog owner works. There are alternatives other than what you suggest.

OK, not going to keep this up. I am glad you have your opinion, but according to your signature no chickens yet. But at what point do you do the deed, when fido is carrying off your prize hen. This happened twice. Or when the owners think fido has been in a pen long enough and let him out and he comes back, or when fido had killed you last chicken. Believe me when I say I tried everything I knew to get them to keep the dog away. Even to the point of shoot a gun into the ground to run the dog off. He just came back a little later, more causious. But he came back. I am not some orge that enjoys shooting dogs, but I love my poultry and am very tired of people not controlling their animals, and the animal making multiple attacks on my property at my birds. Sometimes the alternative is doing the deed.

This will be my last post, as I don't want to keep this up either.
Yes, we have a duty to protect our flocks. We also have a duty to protect our packs. Human beings are the ones that need to step up and make responsible decisions. I am sorry that your experience with your family ended up having to go to such extremes, but I feel that your experience has clouded your judgment. You are advocating that the OP makes his own Grandmother's dog disappear!

You seem to take exception to my suggestion that they *gasp* talk about the situation and try to find a peaceful resolution.

While I don't have chickens, I have done enough reading on this forum to know that protecting my chickens will be my responsibility. To which, I will be building them a secure run. If I were to choose to free range and one got attacked by a predator, I would be the first to lay the blame where it belongs... on my own shoulders!