UltraKibble

[Birdienumnums]

I know we are off topic,
But turkeys do a top job, a couple of days ago I had a two year old green hen squat on the ground as I went past like a chicken, she was reared by a turkey and not stupid tame, a bit on the aggressive side if anything, that is nothing like chicken reared birds which fly and smash against the wire.
The main thing is to watch cleaning up after the hen or the chicks can eat her droppings and get sick, probably the same with the chickens.

 

[bdfive]

Sure been a while since we all chatted about C&S Farmer's Helper UntraKibble on this thread. My peafowl are absolutely gorgeous and healthy due to this excellent feed available to us thanks to Resolution that formulated it. I still don't feed it to them exclusively due to the price but supplement it with Game Bird Feed. They get all sorts of healthy treats too. ANYONE ELSE USING THE ULTRAKIBBLE? I still have feed in the aviaries and available to the free range peafowl all day. Peafowl don't gorge themselves like some animals. It's put up nights to keep from chumming in predators.

OFF TOPIC but guess what I have in the incubator...................................2 Black Swan Eggs. (-:

 

[zazouse]

I used it last year and the year before for my babies only can't afford to feed it to my entire flock , i can not tell how good it was for them but they grew up very healthy , but then like you i feed all kinds of whole foods i grow here. Plus they were turned loose to free range as soon as they were to big for a snake to eat

 

[bdfive]

I was getting mine on www.ozbo.com, 15 lb bag for about $26. Shipping was $4.95 regardless of how many I ordered so would get at least 4 bags at a time. I think Ozbo has gone out of business. Now hassel Tractor Supply to order it for me but they want to charge shipping to the store and the computer automatically adds sales tax which we don't pay on feed in Texas. It's a pain to go through but I do it. I don't give it to those that free range. It's amazing how much less poo I clean up when they're eating the UltraKibble. Guess it's like good dog food.......less filler, less poo. Love the product, just wish it was more available so price would come down. PEAS, FISH MEAL, SALMON MEAL, SUNFLOWER OIL, CINNAMON, DRIED CARROTS, CELERY, BEETS, PARSLEY, LETTUCE, WATERCRESS AND SPINACH and more with added vitamins. Saw some peafowl raised on and fed Mazuri

Keeping a garden is so much work. I'm thinking about just tossing veggie seeds in the fenced garden area, water it with a sprinkler in the center and let the birds go in to eat, LOL!!! Didn't plant last year.....what a waste. The weeds have taken over.

Wish snakes were all I had to worry about. They coyotes have been horrible for about the last 4 months. Naturally coons, skunk, possum and fox are alsways a challenge.

 

[zazouse]

I was getting mine on www.ozbo.com, 15 lb bag for about $26. Shipping was $4.95 regardless of how many I ordered so would get at least 4 bags at a time. I think Ozbo has gone out of business. Now hassel Tractor Supply to order it for me but they want to charge shipping to the store and the computer automatically adds sales tax which we don't pay on feed in Texas. It's a pain to go through but I do it. I don't give it to those that free range. It's amazing how much less poo I clean up when they're eating the UltraKibble. Guess it's like good dog food.......less filler, less poo. Love the product, just wish it was more available so price would come down. PEAS, FISH MEAL, SALMON MEAL, SUNFLOWER OIL, CINNAMON, DRIED CARROTS, CELERY, BEETS, PARSLEY, LETTUCE, WATERCRESS AND SPINACH and more with added vitamins. Saw some peafowl raised on and fed Mazuri

Keeping a garden is so much work. I'm thinking about just tossing veggie seeds in the fenced garden area, water it with a sprinkler in the center and let the birds go in to eat, LOL!!! Didn't plant last year.....what a waste. The weeds have taken over.

Wish snakes were all I had to worry about. They coyotes have been horrible for about the last 4 months. Naturally coons, skunk, possum and fox are alsways a challenge.

Thanks for the link, i paid like 6.99 for 2.25 lb bag so this other place would def save me some money

I am going to put my green peas on this because they will never be free ranged

might try a couple later on when i hatch some out but these babies, i am pretty sure these babies i will be getting are not imprinted so i am sure they are going to be wild as all get-out

What was the expiration date on the bags you got, last bags i got back in July of 2014 did not expire till may of 2016

 

[MinxFox]

I was getting mine on www.ozbo.com, 15 lb bag for about $26. Shipping was $4.95 regardless of how many I ordered so would get at least 4 bags at a time. I think Ozbo has gone out of business. Now hassel Tractor Supply to order it for me but they want to charge shipping to the store and the computer automatically adds sales tax which we don't pay on feed in Texas. It's a pain to go through but I do it. I don't give it to those that free range. It's amazing how much less poo I clean up when they're eating the UltraKibble. Guess it's like good dog food.......less filler, less poo. Love the product, just wish it was more available so price would come down. PEAS, FISH MEAL, SALMON MEAL, SUNFLOWER OIL, CINNAMON, DRIED CARROTS, CELERY, BEETS, PARSLEY, LETTUCE, WATERCRESS AND SPINACH and more with added vitamins. Saw some peafowl raised on and fed Mazuri

Keeping a garden is so much work. I'm thinking about just tossing veggie seeds in the fenced garden area, water it with a sprinkler in the center and let the birds go in to eat, LOL!!! Didn't plant last year.....what a waste. The weeds have taken over.

Wish snakes were all I had to worry about. They coyotes have been horrible for about the last 4 months. Naturally coons, skunk, possum and fox are alsways a challenge.

So glad you revived this old topic and shared your experiences with this feed!

Do you feed them the UltraKibble every day and how much do you give them? Tractor Supply only has little bags, I think the one Zaz describes as being 2.25 Ib a bag is the one they have here as well. I buy that sometimes. I feed the UltraKibble to them like I feed cat food. I feed my 7 peas out of 1 plastic coffee can. I mix the UltraKibble in with sunflower seeds and give it to them. Is the UltraKibble supposed to be more like a main feed and less of a treat like cat food?

Have you tried the UltraKibble for chicks?

What I love about UltraKibble is that it is probably the ONLY feed that actually has a picture of a peacock on the bag, along with other pheasants that I never see on other bags of feed.

Thanks for the link, i paid like 6.99 for 2.25 lb bag so this other place would def save me some money

I am going to put my green peas on this because they will never be free ranged

might try a couple later on when i hatch some out but these babies, i am pretty sure these babies i will be getting are not imprinted so i am sure they are going to be wild as all get-out

What was the expiration date on the bags you got, last bags i got back in July of 2014 did not expire till may of 2016

Kelly Wheelbarger mentioned once feeding his greens UltraKibble. He would probably be able to tell you how it worked on the green peafowl. Here is his facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Read-Mountain-Peafowl/299476123405814

I am not sure if Josh has tried UltraKibble but it is worth asking him.

I hope the peachicks aren't too wild for you, but unfortunately chances are they will be. When I got those Spalding white peachicks from a family friend, they were still very small:

Even this small they did not take to imprinting. They were very wild acting. I have raised peachicks that I would say were not imprinted to me, but these were worse than those. The good news though is once they were around a year old and in the big aviary with the other peas, they started to tame down more. Then they would all eat out of my hand and now they are very comfortable around me. They walk up to me and they don't get scared when I walk by them. So hopefully, if they are wild acting, it won't last for long. I also think being in the peachick pen, since it is smaller, made them feel like they couldn't get away from me. Once they were in the aviary they must have felt like they had plenty of room to run from me if they had to so they felt more comfortable and thus tamed down.

 

[bdfive]

Zazouse, I don't think ozbo.com is in business anymore so that resource is gone. I've been looking for another that sells it reasonable.

I gave up on the 100% Green peafowl....sold mine to good homes. They need to be fed so much better then the Blue species to look as beautiful as they can be and they are so agressive with other birds. Especially the males but females too. I have 2 male Emerald Spalding I've had to separate with breeding season coming. The dominant will kill the other if he gets the opportunity. So far he's not attacked a Pied India Blue but watching them close. The 2 are in a huge aviary, probably 1,500 sq ft. Other Emerald Spalding male in 13 by 30 foot pen. Raised them from chicks....they are 5 years old now. Might be selling one along with 2 females. Thinking about backing out due to the pen they'll be going in being to small. 10 by 30 feet with shed on the end but only 6 feet tall. Buyers are wonderful people and believe they will care for them propertly but concerned with that pen. What do you think?

 

[zazouse]

So glad you revived this old topic and shared your experiences with this feed!

Do you feed them the UltraKibble every day and how much do you give them? Tractor Supply only has little bags, I think the one Zaz describes as being 2.25 Ib a bag is the one they have here as well. I buy that sometimes. I feed the UltraKibble to them like I feed cat food. I feed my 7 peas out of 1 plastic coffee can. I mix the UltraKibble in with sunflower seeds and give it to them. Is the UltraKibble supposed to be more like a main feed and less of a treat like cat food?

Have you tried the UltraKibble for chicks?

What I love about UltraKibble is that it is probably the ONLY feed that actually has a picture of a peacock on the bag, along with other pheasants that I never see on other bags of feed.

Kelly Wheelbarger mentioned once feeding his greens UltraKibble. He would probably be able to tell you how it worked on the green peafowl. Here is his facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Read-Mountain-Peafowl/299476123405814

I am not sure if Josh has tried UltraKibble but it is worth asking him.

I hope the peachicks aren't too wild for you, but unfortunately chances are they will be. When I got those Spalding white peachicks from a family friend, they were still very small:

Even this small they did not take to imprinting. They were very wild acting. I have raised peachicks that I would say were not imprinted to me, but these were worse than those. The good news though is once they were around a year old and in the big aviary with the other peas, they started to tame down more. Then they would all eat out of my hand and now they are very comfortable around me. They walk up to me and they don't get scared when I walk by them. So hopefully, if they are wild acting, it won't last for long. I also think being in the peachick pen, since it is smaller, made them feel like they couldn't get away from me. Once they were in the aviary they must have felt like they had plenty of room to run from me if they had to so they felt more comfortable and thus tamed down.

I only fed the ulta kibble for chicks it was small but has the same ingredients as the one for larger birds.
Birds per say will not imprinted on someone after it has passed the wanting stage you must be the first thing they relate to for that to happen and you have to work with them not just stick them in a cage, all my first babies i purchased some were 1 week some were couple months and what i have left here of them are still my most stand offish birds, but all the ones i hatched imprinted on humans from the first day and are total pest . PEEP is a perfect example

Thanks for the link to RMP i saw his page a while back he has imports but did not seem to get may eggs from them, i only saw where he posted he got 2 last year, i hope mine do better but i am planing on a very big GREEN aviary for them

I have lots of land and lots of plans

Gonna be using many of these covered in hardware cloth

 

[MinxFox]

That is one of my concerns about the greens is how they need different feed and how they might be aggressive. Have you tried using wooden palates in your pen? I know with small pheasants people will make a little shelter for the females to hide behind. Josh leans 1 wooden palate against the tin shed wall of each green peafowl pen. This way the peahen can hide behind there so that she won't be picked on too much by the peacock.

I only have one aviary so I am not an expert on the perfect pen size, nor have I had greens or high % spaldings. I would agree with you though that 10x30 ft. is not a whole lot. For India Blues it would probably be alright, but for 3 Emerald Spaldings that doesn't sound so good. I could see them feather picking themselves in a pen of that size, but that is just my guess. 6ft tall is low, and the perches would be lower than that. If they really want them you could tell them they need to expand their pen and see about making a taller shelter. Usually I like having the perches at least 6ft, so having the roof 6ft sounds low to me, but even large peafowl breeders will give their birds low perches. I like taller perches because the birds like them more, the peacock's train won't drag, and they are safer.

 

[MinxFox]

I only fed the ulta kibble for chicks it was small but has the same ingredients as the one for larger birds.
Birds per say will not imprinted on someone after it has passed the wanting stage you must be the first thing they relate to for that to happen and you have to work with them not just stick them in a cage, all my first babies i purchased some were 1 week some were couple months and what i have left here of them are still my most stand offish birds, but all the ones i hatched imprinted on humans from the first day and are total pest . PEEP is a perfect example

Thanks for the link to RMP i saw his page a while back he has imports but did not seem to get may eggs from them, i only saw where he posted he got 2 last year, i hope mine do better but i am planing on a very big GREEN aviary for them

I have lots of land and lots of plans

Gonna be using many of these covered in hardware cloth

Peep is a pest, but I love him too much to consider him a pest most of the time. I figure if I had 10 more Peeps running around, it might get too annoying. I like being able to watch the peafowl do their thing without being distracted by my presence, and Peep hardly does his own thing when I am in the pen. He just wants to be pet.

I figured you would make an amazing aviary for the greens. Watch out for fence fighting. Birdman had a green peacock that was always distracted by a free-range blackshoulder that wanted to fence fight him all the time. One time I visited and the poor green peacock was walking really funny. Birdman told me it was because of all the fence fighting he was doing with the blackshoulder peacock. I can't say it will happen for sure, but just keep that in mind. If you don't already have netting, I would look into getting netting from Cuttler's Supply. Everyone seems to recommend the 2in. knotted netting they have on there. AugeredIn said that is some of the best netting you can get for an aviary and it will last a lot longer than other kinds of netting. I have that netting waiting to be put up after the shelter is started and finished, and I can really tell that the quality is 100 times better than the cheep stuff I got off of ebay. I sometimes see recommendations for 3T products netting as well.