Unbelievable!! Foxes are now coming in the middle of the day!

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First I recognize that laws differ not only from state to state but even from county to county or city to city if that be the case. So at the very least talk to animal control as well as Fish and Game. But here is my story.
I had a Raccoon actually try to get into my kitchen a couple of years ago. i was standing about 10 feet from it and for a while it didn't seem to care, it was going to get in that door and almost did. good news isd it second thought it's plans and left. but that could have been a very ugly situation. So a bit rattled I called both animal control and fish and wildlife and here is what I found out. I could not shoot it in any form or kill it in any other of many ways that are deemed cruel. that list was a bit strange cause putting the critter in a bag and throwing it int he river was not considered cruel. so the list was weird but important or I would actually violate the law. okay no shooting not even with air rifle or bow. could not poison. could not trap it with a leg trap type trap, but I could live trap it and animal control would even supply the trap. The real problem began with after i caught it.
I could not transport it at all so this means i could not even drive out to the country to shoot it where it was legal to use firearms.
i could not transport even after it was dead. and most surprising It was illegal to relocate it by any method. i could not even hike up the hill to let it go somewhere else once I trapped it. Basically the only thing I could do once i trapped it was kill it. it is actually illegal to even let it back out of the trap alive. but every single means of killing it was also illegal and it was illegal to move it to a location that I could legally kill it. Except as I mention above. i happen to have an irrigation ditch along the back edge of my yard. I could throw the coon trap and all into this ditch and drown it. at the very best this just happen to be a loop hole I could use. I share this just to show that some places will not tell you outright that you cannot kill animals on your property, but they do have a huge tangled network of laws that makes that effectively so. Oh by the way, No I did not have to kill the coon. evidently he was not as impressed with our kitchen as I feared he was and never saw him again. must have been my wifes cooking. I am just kidding my wife is a very good cook and was just a little insulted by the coons failure to come back.
 
Wow, they don't make it easy do they, Daniel? We have called around and emailed several of the places here locally that are licensed to trap predators and every single one of them has said they can't do foxes, but when we have been able to talk to a live person and ask why, they haven't known why.
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I really think there are so many of them that it is almost pointless to trap them anyway. It boils down to the fact that I won't feel secure even if we are able to trap some of them, so it is not like it is going to change how we cage our birds. We talked about it yesterday and we are going to try to figure out how to do a hot wire on top of the six foot fence and still also around the areas inside the privacy fence where we have the runs. We also are still going to keep the birds all in covered runs, including now also the day pens (almost all are covered already with welded wire). If a six foot fence, two different electric fences, and covered runs don't keep them out, I don't know what will.
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I'm so glad you posted this CityChicker. The past 2 days, every time I've been outside I've found fresh fox tracks. I thought I was losing my mind!
 
Foxes are evil! They come out in broad daylight a lot. WE lost 30 hens to two of them 2 years ago. We put out snares and traps everywhere. Finally one was shot and the other left. We never did catch any of them. I have ever since despised foxes. I had one come within 3 feet of me one day when I was watching the chickens.
 
I'm rather curious as to whether anyone here has their chickens in a run or fenced in area? Also whether anyone has tried my suggestion to "mark" w/ male human urine. Yes I know it sounds crazy but if other urine works as a deterent why not human? I've been doing this for sometime but after this post think it 's a time for a renewal. I haven't seen anything but I don't want to take any chances.
 
Just get a bow and pop them. No need buying expensive fencing or useless traps. Just kill one or two, hang them on a post or something and the others will understand. I know there just trying to survive but my hens wanna live as much as they do. If you don't get them, they'll get your hens. Either way, somethings gonna die. Its up to you what its going to be.
 
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Tried that years ago, doesn't work around here. They just sniff the deceased and continue on with their mission. Besides I got to sleep sometimes. They must be more determined or hungry.

BTW I like your avatar... Pink Floyd>>>Animals 1977 Brings back memories.
 
Wild animals will be out and about in the middle of the day this time of year. Winter is hard on them too and they get more desparate and sometimes will take more chances like raiding the barnyard. I went to watch the superbowl with some freinds and they said some thing has cought 2 of their peacocks and 3 of their hens. What ever it is has been carring them plum off. We think either a coyote or a bobcat.
 
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